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I've had a lot of trouble getting dates, women see the Android-colored bubbles when I message them, then they typically blow me off. I'm sure it's the Android-colored bubbles.
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I saw an article on the topic where the reporter spoke with Beeper's CEO, Eric Migicovsky. He seems to believe that blocking Beeper might cause problems for legitimate Apple user's. Obviously that outcome is something he wants, but I still think its interesting. [0]: https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/5/23987817/beeper-mini-imes...
That would make sense: because Apple have deeply coupled iMessage to the OS they can’t simply roll out a new version of the app with protocol changes that would block Beeper, they’d have to release entire OS updates. No matter the method it would be a scorched earth approach. I suspect the number of people actually using Beeper will be far below a rounding error for Apple.
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Emulation software isn’t wholly original as it needs firmware and software from the device so emulated. An iPhone emulator with no bootrom and no iOS isn’t very useful. An open source client for an API need not include any non-original works.
Depends on whether you consider a private key an "original work": https://github.com/JJTech0130/pypush/blob/main/albert.py#L16 The situation seems very similar to the AACS key leak back in the day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controvers...
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> A universal chat application would be amazing You mean like WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram and dozens of different chat apps available for both Android and iOS?
Beeper is an app that unifies all the messaging protocols you mentioned (and others) into a single app. They are not introducing another protocol. Universal in this context is referring to the ability to use a single app across protocols rather than the ability to use a single app across platforms.
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What is currently not interoperable between the majors mobile OS makers?
Well messaging for one thing... Some others: - Find my device features including Bluetooth ping networking (airtags, Tile, Android's upcoming network) - Airdrop/Nearby Share - Bluetooth LE proximity pairing (at least I doubt this works when pairing cross ecosystem) - Carplay/Android Auto - Airplay/Google Cast
Another Apple ecosystem that can be used by non-Apple devices. OpenHaystack [0] has been working well for quite a while.
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The phone number registration https://blog.beeper.com/i/139416474/sending-and-receiving-me... will make it possible to enforce legal action against malicious and spammy messages. Note that iPhones already receive SMS spam and fraud just like every other phone. However, you are correct that the blue bubble is no longer a guarantee that the bad actor is using an iPhone.
They do receive spam and fraud, but the numbers are orders of magnitude less than every one’s else BECAUSE it’s tied to hardware. I don’t know the details of how’s these guys got around it, but this is bad for the rest of us when phishing skyrockets.
Whether the number uses iMessage or not is totally irrelevant.
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What would they demand they cease doing? Publishing software? If the use of this software is against their rights in some way, the end users running it would be the ones in violation. Publishing original software is protected expression.
One prominent counterexample to this thesis is DRM circumvention software, which regularly gets taken down via DMCA notices. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple even invokes that particular law.
So it's even worse than the risk of being taken down. Way worse.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/10/drms-dead-canary-how-w...
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> A universal chat application would be amazing You mean like WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram and dozens of different chat apps available for both Android and iOS?
Beeper is an app that unifies all the messaging protocols you mentioned (and others) into a single app. They are not introducing another protocol. Universal in this context is referring to the ability to use a single app across protocols rather than the ability to use a single app across platforms.
It's what EU mandated and from March '24 all major chat apps have to be able to communicate with each other.
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Is this specifically unauthorized, though? The user is permitted to use Apple's services, and Apple has, as far as I know, not announced that third party apps may not use their services.
Even Signal pitches a fit if you use a third-party app with their servers. It's a common (and unfortunate) practice.
It would be nice if third party clients were allowed to connect, but it's totally understandable if they don't want to allow it. Servers cost money, and misbehaving client apps that you have no control over sound like a pain in the ass.
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Is this specifically unauthorized, though? The user is permitted to use Apple's services, and Apple has, as far as I know, not announced that third party apps may not use their services.
Even Signal pitches a fit if you use a third-party app with their servers. It's a common (and unfortunate) practice.
i’ve run multiple 3rd-party signal clients, even alongside the official apps, and never seen any problems or warnings.