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Firefox on the brink?

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Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by mvdtnz »

whakim wrote: post #475
jdlyga wrote: post #90

Firefox needs to focus all their effort on making a good web browser first . If the browser is slow, has a clunky interface, or lags behind on features, then people won't use it. Mozilla focus way too much of their attention on privacy and non-browser related projects. Look at how much attention that The Browser Company has gotten for their Arc browser on Mac. Their primary focus is great UI and making an excellent b…

I always see comments like this on HN, and I struggle to understand why. Firefox is plenty fast. Its interface is extremely similar to most of its competitors. It works well. What special sauce do you expect Mozilla to implement that'll suddenly change their fortunes? It's a browser, after all. And why do you think that such features aren't being implemented due to lack of resources or muddled priorities - surely Moz…

Every time I launch Firefox (rare) it gives me a popup telling me it needs to install an update and to please relaunch. Come on man. It's not 2006 anymore, that kind of update prompt doesn't fly anymore.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by ryukoposting »

hs86 wrote: post #117

I switched over after the Manifest v3 debacle, and after a couple of months, I wonder if the implications of using a browser with a lower market share are overblown. I haven't encountered any site that misbehaves, and the only missing feature so far is within the Google Drive web app because it uses a Chrome-only extension [1]. Maybe the ongoing standardization of the web shows its effects here, and using a standard-…

A handful of Google services are buggy and slow in FireFox. Stackdriver in particular is an absolute shambles. Thankfully I'm an embedded guy so most of the stuff in Stackdriver is hieroglyphics to me anyway.

I can't prove that Google is doing that intentionally, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by flagrant_taco »

insanitybit wrote: post #637
riversflow wrote: post #621

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does a government site need that you can't do on firefox? Honestly this is disenfranchising, you should consider the ethics of what you are proscribing for the populace. I should have a right to choose a browser that respects my privacy from a PC.

It's clearly not about what is needed, it's about what is tested . And spending resources on a browser that appears to have 2% of the market is not going to be a high priority.

"appears to have 2%" is doing a lot of work he. If the earlier comments are accurate, the government stats are based on Google Analytics data that is specifically blocked or obscured by Firefox.

That 2% kind be breached, but the data doesn't accurately represent usage if Firefix is blocking GA in any meaningful numbers.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by batiudrami »

mvdtnz wrote: post #731
whakim wrote: post #475

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always see comments like this on HN, and I struggle to understand why. Firefox is plenty fast. Its interface is extremely similar to most of its competitors. It works well. What special sauce do you expect Mozilla to implement that'll suddenly change their fortunes? It's a browser, after all. And why do you think that such features aren't being implemented due to lack of resources or muddled priorities - surely Moz…

Every time I launch Firefox (rare) it gives me a popup telling me it needs to install an update and to please relaunch. Come on man. It's not 2006 anymore, that kind of update prompt doesn't fly anymore.

It doesn’t run a background process on your computer 24/7 to ensure you’re up to date like Chrome. Weird objection; I prefer it this way.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by mvdtnz »

batiudrami wrote: post #734
mvdtnz wrote: post #731

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I launch Firefox (rare) it gives me a popup telling me it needs to install an update and to please relaunch. Come on man. It's not 2006 anymore, that kind of update prompt doesn't fly anymore.

It doesn’t run a background process on your computer 24/7 to ensure you’re up to date like Chrome. Weird objection; I prefer it this way.

I prefer it when software does the tedious stuff for me.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by roywiggins »

JohnFen wrote: post #641
roywiggins wrote: post #506

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If you want to make money or reach constituents, this isn't actually a viable option for anyone. When people complain that they can't submit their DMV forms (or whatever) and you say, "well we followed all the standards, go find another browser" and they say "which one" and you say "I don't know, we didn't test with any browsers, we just test against the standard" who do you think they'll blame?

So we can't have a well-functioning system because that would interfere with some people making money. We truly do live in sad times.

That's why I said "reach constituents". Governments, nonprofits, utilities, etc, all ideally need to actually reach everyone, it doesn't matter how.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by ksec »

> as observed by analytics.usa.gov.

On the assumption that Desktop also includes Laptop, ~25% of the are on Mac.

Nearly ~65% of Mobile users are on iOS.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by ksec »

Off topic question

>Analytics.usa.gov is migrating to a new web analytics platform. >Real time data is currently unavailable.

What analytics platform do they currently use and where are they moving to ?

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by fud101 »

I wont use firefox because it doesn't do saving my shit in the cloud. I would switch at a heartbeat if they stopped with the stupid sync on another device thing. Fu
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