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Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by stephc_int13 »

endisneigh wrote: post #70

Imagine valuing your time so little you waste it trying to block instead of just abstaining or using premium. When Facebook started being user hostile I stopped using it wholesale. Anti Google YouTube folks haven’t gotten the message yet. If you make 25 an hour - the bottom decile wage for software engineering - and waste more than half an hour on this a month, idk what to say. That’s a minute a day. Chop chop. By th…

This type of pseudo rational/economic reasonings are only half-smart. (In the same vein, I am not growing vegetables in my garden to save money or time)

In practice, many decisions are neither about money or time.

In this case, this is about voting with your wallet. I don't care about the price, but I really care about not increasing the revenue of Google.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by ath3nd »

Analemma_ wrote: post #62
kibwen wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's permanently dispense with this weird notion that blocking ads is theft. When you're listening to the radio, it's not theft to change the station when ads come up. When you're watching TV, it's not theft to mute the TV and get a drink when ads come up. Youtube has zero moral expectation that people will actually watch the ads it serves. They're giving a product away for free, and people are consuming it for free…

This goes both ways though. If it's not theft to not watch the ads, it's not "anticompetitive" to not serve you the video if they think you're blocking ads. What "competition" are they even blocking? The competitors who are just waiting to jump in and do exascale video hosting for free, forever, to users who bring in no revenue? Either accept the cat-and-mouse game, pay for YT premium, or stop using YouTube. Complain…

> to users who bring in no revenue? Oh, sweet summer child, they already have been monetizing their users browsing behavior and selling it to advertisers. It's their main business

> Complaining that Google is somehow wronging you by not giving you the free video hosting you're entitled to is asinine.

Google are using our browsing and video watching data already. That's enough (and has been enough over many years) for them to monetize their service. What they are doing now with the attack on adblockers on Youtube is corporate greed as they simply want MORE monetization.

And what they are doing to adblockers in general with manifest v3 and Privacy Sandbox is simply anti-competitive practices.

> Either accept the cat-and-mouse game, pay for YT premium, or stop using YouTube. And how about no? What's in to you? Working in Youtube and worried your boss can't buy his 5-th Tesla? Understand that there are some people not happy with the enshittification of the internet, and we want to fight for a better one.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by autoexec »

endisneigh wrote: post #91
autoexec wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine valuing yourself and your money so little that you'd pay a company who is actively harassing you with unwanted attempts at manipulation to pretty please leave you alone and let you see the free content you want without interruption.

100% agree. Those people who care about that shouldn’t use YouTube or any Google services at all. It’s easy to degoogle. Kagi search is a good start.

> Those people who care about that shouldn’t use YouTube or any Google services at all.

While it'd be wise to avoid Google for privacy reasons, I see no problem with people making a choice to use YouTube if they want to. People can decide for themselves how much risk they're willing to take for the content hosted there. I totally respect people's choice to avoid Google to whatever limited extent that is possible, but I also respect people's choice to engage with Google on their own terms. I'd just hope that that choice is a well informed one.

For me personally that means my use of youtube involves never logging into youtube, not using youtube to view the content hosted there (I either use NewPipe or yt-dlp to download videos and then use VLC to view them), avoiding searching for content I wouldn't want forever associated with my identity, blocking ads, blocking suggested videos, blocking comments, etc. it works pretty well for me.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by hunter2_ »

colpabar wrote: post #90
gorhill wrote: post #52

A reliable way I found to confirm whether there is new anti-content blocker code released by Youtube is to visit uBlockOrigin's reddit sub[1]: If there are well over 1,000 "here now" (near top right), this confirms the anti-content blocker code has been updated. If well below 1,000 "here now", all is fine. At time of writing, it's fine. * * * [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/

This is clever and I'm definitely using it. Website idea: a downdetector-like site that uses reddit's "here now" numbers to give insight into whether something is going on with a certain thing. edit: Has anyone else not really been affected by the new youtube adblock policy at all? I think I have seen the warning a single time, and I use youtube all the time . I only use ublock origin and privacy badger... on chrome.…

> Has anyone else not really been affected by the new youtube adblock policy at all?

The megathread addresses this:

> I've never seen this message. Is this because of my browser being X or Y? No, YouTube didn't roll this out to everybody yet.

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/184fivk/youtu...

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by BuyMyBitcoins »

ranting-moth wrote: post #20

Yes, but YT seems to be doing a lot of A/B testing so what works for others doesn't mean it works for you. If I see an ad I just close YT for the rest of the day.

I should generate some incompressible 4K 60 FPS videos that consist of three hours of randomly generated static and upload them out of spite.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by lepus »

spaceguillotine wrote: post #104
ranting-moth wrote: post #20

Yes, but YT seems to be doing a lot of A/B testing so what works for others doesn't mean it works for you. If I see an ad I just close YT for the rest of the day.

private browsing w/ ad block seems to be working, its only when logged in do i get a warning

They're expanding the testing -- I recently got a warning when in private browsing and not logged in, but I haven't had an ad or warning when logged in (yet).

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by throw0101b »

defrim wrote: post #93
endisneigh wrote: post #70

Imagine valuing your time so little you waste it trying to block instead of just abstaining or using premium. When Facebook started being user hostile I stopped using it wholesale. Anti Google YouTube folks haven’t gotten the message yet. If you make 25 an hour - the bottom decile wage for software engineering - and waste more than half an hour on this a month, idk what to say. That’s a minute a day. Chop chop. By th…

While you make a good point, I think it's safe to say that Youtube is quite a lot more significant for the average person than facebook is. Say that I wanted guides or tutorials on fixing something in my car, in-depth steps for making a certain recipe, or even programming courses. Youtube is easily one of the best resources for all of these and everything in general. Saying to write-off one of the internet's best too…

> Saying to write-off one of the internet's best tools just because they've pushed out mv3 seems like giving up too quickly for me.

If you find value in it, why don't you reward the people creating that value?

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by cynicalsecurity »

I wouldn't mind paying Google, but there is one thing Google does that really infuriates me: they want both my personal data and my money.

This is absolute flagrant greediness that I won't tolerate. Either stop collecting my personal data completely OR take my money. You can't have both.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe in the slightest they don't collect my personal data when I'm paying them. I find it difficult to trust any of their promises due to their poor reputation.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by throw0101b »

godshatter wrote: post #79
crazygringo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really see how a business blocking ad blockers is having a tantrum. That makes about as much sense as saying a store hiring a security guard to reduce theft is having a tantrum.

They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them. People who don't like advertisements are removing them without looking at them. They are retaliating by trying to force them to look at the ads or to otherwise mess with them getting the free items in a timely manner in the first place. Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me.

> They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them.

The are not "giving things away": they have terms of service. The agreement is: pay for premium or watch the ads. (This way they can pay their bills (including employee salaries and the creators that make the content).)

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by alphazard »

ses1984 wrote: post #63
alphazard wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also a Firefox user. The internet is unbearable with ads. If a browser doesn't filter ads well it's unsuitable for use in 2023. If Chrome can't block YouTube ads anymore, then it's just not even a contender. The normies tend to lag a little with these things, but it won't be long before "Firefox is the one that works on YouTube" is common tech trivia.

it’s funny you think google would just let that happen.

Google isn't one thing. It's an organization made up of individuals, with salaries and bonuses, and stock grants, and other incentive structures. It's entirely possible that those individuals, narrowly in the pursuit of those things, could squander something like browser market share, in exchange for dollars per view on youtube, or some other metric defined in an OKR.
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