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Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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I feel like no one is really saying it in this discussion, but paying the $9 a month or whatever for YouTube Premium makes this whole thing a non-issue, and comes with perks like being able to download videos to your device (great for flying) and to play things in the background.

They are unfortunately raising it to $14/mo. But I'll keep paying because I can't stand the YouTube ads, and it comes with YouTube Music so I don't need to pay for Spotify or some other music service.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#72

Thanks for posting - Google needs to face serious competition and market penalties for the recent anti-user behavior. I feel that the products that matter at Google are controlled by an extremely distasteful group of people. Looting the users amassed years ago by real innovator engineers. For example, the real implied free storage in GMail has implicitly been reduced by 80%. Their failure to reduce prices and in fact…

How would competition even work? How could any company succeed proving a product to a user base that doesn’t watch ads and doesn’t pay for the service? Would be like proving an alternative to cater to shoplifters.

You assume the competition needs to be commercial, but P2P video sharing has been around for a long time. Folks contribute bandwidth for altruistic reasons.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#73

I feel like no one is really saying it in this discussion, but paying the $9 a month or whatever for YouTube Premium makes this whole thing a non-issue, and comes with perks like being able to download videos to your device (great for flying) and to play things in the background.

This and spotify are the two monthly expenses I cannot live without. YT Premium is soooo worth it.

And yes, I realize I can play music via the same subscription but I have been using Spotify since before it existed outside Sweden and really enjoy it. I will not be leaving any time soon.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#74

I feel like no one is really saying it in this discussion, but paying the $9 a month or whatever for YouTube Premium makes this whole thing a non-issue, and comes with perks like being able to download videos to your device (great for flying) and to play things in the background.

No one is saying this because people who intentionally use ublock are doing it to not support youtube.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#75

Google is having a tantrum about ads blocker. They should know better.

And they respond in the most predictable way: enshittifying the experience more and more so that more users will employ adblockers or leave. Nobody needed adblockers when ads weren't abusive, it took years for them to become as such so that someone created the first adblocker. There is a line separating ads that are acceptable if not interesting when unobtrusive and carefully targeted, from the load of crap they shovel at our face. Unfortunately that's how the system is built: not just making profits but maximizing them, which can't scale indefinitely, and the ever growing advertising that ruins both platforms and content value is just another warning that this system is broken from its roots.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.

I can appreciate your point, but there's a broad history of paid services introducing ads, ads getting longer and more abrasive, content people having paid for being disappeared at the whim of the network, algorithms dictating how people are introduced to content or pushed to keep using an app, etc. I don't have much trust that many services do the right thing for subscribers. A few services I pay for (Spotify, Xero,…

I don't see how any of that is an excuse not to pay for youtube. If there is no ad-free version and no alternative products then I get blocking ads, I do too. But when I'm given an option to pay to remove ads, I generally pay.

For websites that give me a popup saying disable adblock or no content, I immediately hit the back button and let them rot in no-view hell.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#77

Google is having a tantrum about ads blocker. They should know better.

I don't really see how a business blocking ad blockers is having a tantrum. That makes about as much sense as saying a store hiring a security guard to reduce theft is having a tantrum.

No, that's not the textual or social contract for how advertising works. If a company starts giving away pizza but stacking tomes of ad flyers on top, it's ok to take those ads, dump them in the garbage, and eat the pizza. That's how advertising has worked on the internet for decades: "yes this content is free, pay no mind to these ads over here." Just cause you found "one weird trick" to get paid doesn't mean you own my time/attention.

Advertisers want more though, and inventory owners have drunk deep from the cash hose for so long that they want to normalize and enforce behavior that we the public have merely put-up-with till now. We as the audience are now being told that we OWE the pizza store our time and eyeballs; throwing away the ad flyer, why, that's STEALING! If you're a moral citizen, you'll sit there and read every line of copy, sing along with every jingle, watch every dancing mascot, otherwise you're a thief. We keep this up, and closing your eyes will soon be a crime.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#78

I feel like no one is really saying it in this discussion, but paying the $9 a month or whatever for YouTube Premium makes this whole thing a non-issue, and comes with perks like being able to download videos to your device (great for flying) and to play things in the background.

Logging in means random videos I check from various corners of the internet starts shaping the recommendation algo. Many of these are extremely deep and vicious traps (eg my most recent one was misery porn).

Youtube premium does not works for incognito mode. This requires careful, and manual curation of my "history" page.

No thank you.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#79

Google is having a tantrum about ads blocker. They should know better.

I don't really see how a business blocking ad blockers is having a tantrum. That makes about as much sense as saying a store hiring a security guard to reduce theft is having a tantrum.

They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them. People who don't like advertisements are removing them without looking at them. They are retaliating by trying to force them to look at the ads or to otherwise mess with them getting the free items in a timely manner in the first place. Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

#80

I feel like no one is really saying it in this discussion, but paying the $9 a month or whatever for YouTube Premium makes this whole thing a non-issue, and comes with perks like being able to download videos to your device (great for flying) and to play things in the background.

they're not saying it because microeconomic pressures result in a system where YouTube is unenjoyable or expensive. As humans, we can organize this system to be an enjoyable, free tool, and Google won't be terribly affected by the minor loss in profits but instead, the pressures of capitalism drive innovation to optimize for an undesirable outcome. this isn't negative commentary on capitalism itself, but a roundabout way of saying Google is fucking greedy, I'm a student, and nobody should ever have to pay 9 bucks for youtube.
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