What should Firefox do for you to select it as your default browser? (It’s my default browser, I’m pretty happy with it, also use the pocket functionality quite bit)
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Firefox on the brink?
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Some google meet features are chrome only (background blur, picture in picture). I can't say I have noticed much else, so I use chrome for gsuite and firefox for everything else ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> Some google meet features are chrome only (background blur, picture in picture). They work for me on Firefox 120 on Gnome 45.2.
I think this is a recent change. Background blur certainly did not work for me before, but the other week I noticed it did.
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#573A lot of people around me are switching back to firefox as chrome is showing signs of cracks, especially with the Youtube/ad-blocking saga on chrome. Also, I don't think the US govt guidelines are going to have a dramatic worldwide impact on firefox numbers, the US is no longer the major online player it once was.
Yes, people that believe that Google will forever own the web are the same people that used to believe that Microsoft would forever own it. MS got arrogant and lost. Google looks like they are repeating that mistake. A few things that could go against this: - If enough people use Firefox, no commercial business in their right mind will tell these people to "please leave, we don't serve your kind". Seems to be true fo…
> Yes, people that believe that Google will forever own the web are the same people that used to believe that Microsoft would forever own it. MS got arrogant and lost. Google looks like they are repeating that mistake.
I don't believe Google will forever own the web. But, like Microsoft did, I believe they will cause us a lot of pain before they're through.
Re: Firefox on the brink?
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Features. Be as good as chrome and id use it.
That's absurd. Firefox has been at parity with Chrome for a long time, both are extremely mature technologies. Sometimes one is ahead of the other in one way or the other, but they are largely identical. The exception is when Google or Microsoft "accidentally" break their websites on Firefox. It's pure fantasy to insist that the market share of Firefox is primarily driven by technical merit. Otherwise, you couldn't e…
Multiple profiles from chrome is such an important feature for me, I don't know people cope without it.
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#575What should Firefox do for you to select it as your default browser? (It’s my default browser, I’m pretty happy with it, also use the pocket functionality quite bit)
Multiple profiles
It could use smoother UI support, but I've been using multiple profiles on FF for years. I'm using them right now.
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#576My rebuttal is that a lot of web devs have already moved on from actively supporting Firefox (although most websites still work just fine), and if anything the USDS is a laggard.
The laggards all moving away from Firefox might actually be a big problem though, the enterprise laggards kept Internet Explorer on life support way past its best before date, but FF won't get that.
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chrome by way of google is making sure it's the only thing that youtube still properly works in. When MS tried this shit they got slapped with anti-trust. What google is doing is worse in every dimension.
YouTube works fine in all my Firefox browsers on mobile amd desktop. And despite reported difficulty by others UBO continues to ensure I see no ads there.
A little obscure, but Firefox still does not support HDR video playback on Windows and Linux. I understand they very recently introduced support on Mac finally, which is a good sign.
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#578Instead of government leaving it up to "market share", in an industry with decades of documented history of underhanded anti-competitive behavior, how about: 1. All government Web frontends must be compliant with one of the government-defined profiles of browser features, which are defined in terms of W3C (not WHAT, not Chrome) open standards. With sufficient penalties to motivate compliance. 2. As a practical matter…
Nos. 1 and 3 will win you the developer pico-vote while royally pissing everyone else off.
No. 2 is the matter at hand. You need a cut-off for the multiple browsers requirement. If you don’t, you’ll find contracts to CronyCorp for testing every site against the CronyCorp browser.
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How is searching for oscp obvious when the problem was HSTS?
I was just copying what someone else said in this thread. It might actually be network.stricttransportsecurity.preloadlist but I have not tried it.
It might be this, it might be that, it might be all sorts of things. The point is you have to know what it is for each scenario, then you have to know where to go change it, then you have to know what the variable name is. Or you can know "thisisunsafe" which, while not being something you'll find using the settings for your saturday reading material, is something easily found and universally applicable to all situations without simultaneously turning every other connection you make into a security risk.
It's a great hidden feature just like Firefox has shift+right click/double right click opening the native context. No amount of "well you can just put this in the console in these cases or this in the console in those cases" makes these kinds of features any less useful.
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None of that negates the need to test on various browsers to ensure compatibility.
What compatibility? If Firefox breaks forms, then Firefox broke forms and needs to fix it. Not your bug. If Chrome renders differently from edge because they decided the default color on .gov sites will be pink on white and all padding will be multiplied by 1.5, then that's fine. Not a bug. Chrome just decided to present a different look. If it's even possible for basic functionality to break in a way where you would…
US government websites, as they exist, are often ancient, decrepit, and poorly funded. This will make them all worse and it will cost more. It will get in the way of people actually trying to interact with the government, and the leaders in the government will crap all over the project due to the angry calls they'll get from their constituents.
If we try to stick to pure ideals without any consideration for reality, reality will ignore us and move on. Or, to borrow an example from another field: in infosec, the most secure computer is the one that's never turned on.