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If Apple bans this they will have to answer to EU courts. I very much doubt they will in this political climate.
And if Beeper keeps it up they’re likely running afoul of the CFAA in the US. The EU doesn’t rule the world. They haven’t forced iMessage open yet, and Apple is clearly trying to avoid it with their announced RCS support. I don’t think things are as far along as you do.
Hi Eric! Big fan of Beeper, Pebble, and hopefully the yet-to-be small android phone. I had some questions that I was ill-equipped to answer, and hoped I could throw them your way! When I installed beeper, I mentioned it to my friends that I was using it as a bridge for Signal. They threw a pretty big conniption about the implementation and the fact that all our messages were being routed through an unknown server in…
You can self-host any of our bridges if you prefer: https://github.com/beeper/bridge-manager
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This is absolutely not true. iMessage is a full E2E implementation; it’s nothing like SMS.
"E2E" is a joke when Apple holds the encryption keys to the vast majority of all messages, and uses them to respond to law enforcement requests. (It's how iCloud backup works by default and we know people don't change defaults. This is documented by Apple, not a conspiracy theory.)
However from your message it seems that it should not be required:
>No Apple ID is required
P.S.: the source repo mentioned in the comment (https://github.com/MiUnlockCode/albertsimlockapple) is 404.
[1] https://github.com/JJTech0130/pypush/blob/main/albert.py#L16
Its awesome to reverse engineer this... but.. At the end of the day, this product is taking money for using Apple Services with no recompense to Apple. It won't last. Apple should have added an iMessage client to Android (and charged for it) long, long, long ago, but it doesn't change the ethics problem here. (This is the downside to the "just pay for it with hardware" model people always love rather than paying subs…
I want this for chat. I loved how great everything looked and felt with Telegram, but then i left for Signal and it was super bare bones. Eventually Signal got some stuff, but it's still missing a lot of stupid features that make it fun for me (integrated gif lookups, etc).
I'd love if we could unify around some of these behaviors and as we add new chat apps, users don't lose "basic" functionality.
Anyway, wishes aside - Beeper is really cool. I just signed up to Cloud, and my wife has been a happy user for quite a while.
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Besides being allegedly hard to shut down without breaking iPhones, there's also this statement given to Ars Technica: > Migicovsky had a few different answers. The broadest one, regarding the tech behind the app, is that reverse-engineering for interoperability is legal—a fair use exemption to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's restrictions against circumventing encryption or other protections. The app also goes…
It's legal. But it doesn't mean that Apple has to quietly allow it. What is maybe more relevant is the EU talking about forcing federation. If Apple lets this live it may give them more bargaining power in those discussions. If they shut it down thatay throw jet fuel on the fire.