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Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Re: Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Post by DetroitThrow »

Etheryte wrote: post #7
chollida1 wrote: post #2

I think this is more about manual labour but I'll take the opposite side when it comes to white collar work that working more hours can be better early on in your career. When I was just out of school and in my early 20s I worked as much as I could, I probably did close to 12 hours days in my 20s. I think I probably averaged an all nighter a month for a few years and worked at least one day on weekends and I loved ev…

From the article: > Of the 2.96 million deaths, 2.6 million are due to diseases derived from employment such as circulatory problems, cancer, and respiratory diseases. The remaining 330,000 are related to work accidents. It's hardly surprising a cushy office spares of you of most of these issues. I'm happy to hear your career has been a successful one, but what you describe is completely unrelated to the submitted ar…

never waste a good opportunity for unsolicited bragging, even in your 40s, jeez

Re: Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Post by sonicanatidae »

I would argue against this in the IT industry, but I'm a SysAdmin and we're not known for common sense when it comes to working hours. Lots of other sense, sure, but this? Not so much.

In seriousness, I would like to see less of this. After working through most of my career this way, I would change it, if I did it over.

To new SysAdmins or just hard-headed senior admins like me:

It will still be there tomorrow.

Re: Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

Etheryte wrote: post #7
chollida1 wrote: post #2

I think this is more about manual labour but I'll take the opposite side when it comes to white collar work that working more hours can be better early on in your career. When I was just out of school and in my early 20s I worked as much as I could, I probably did close to 12 hours days in my 20s. I think I probably averaged an all nighter a month for a few years and worked at least one day on weekends and I loved ev…

From the article: > Of the 2.96 million deaths, 2.6 million are due to diseases derived from employment such as circulatory problems, cancer, and respiratory diseases. The remaining 330,000 are related to work accidents. It's hardly surprising a cushy office spares of you of most of these issues. I'm happy to hear your career has been a successful one, but what you describe is completely unrelated to the submitted ar…

Curious take. I would think that "a cushy office", which normally means sitting for very long periods, would directly lead to many of these issues over the long term. Indeed, I've seen many research reports and articles over the past decade declaring "sitting is the new smoking".

Re: Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Post by chollida1 »

globular-toast wrote: post #14
chollida1 wrote: post #2

I think this is more about manual labour but I'll take the opposite side when it comes to white collar work that working more hours can be better early on in your career. When I was just out of school and in my early 20s I worked as much as I could, I probably did close to 12 hours days in my 20s. I think I probably averaged an all nighter a month for a few years and worked at least one day on weekends and I loved ev…

Can I ask how much of that time you were in a relationship for? I have a theory that men who achieve a steady, loving relationship early that allows them to do what you did have a huge advantage. I did the 12 hour days and all nighters too but I eventually got lonely and needed to spend a few years learning how to be social and find a relationship. Now I've found that I'm able to resume the many hours of work and it…

> Can I ask how much of that time you were in a relationship for? I have a theory that men who achieve a steady, loving relationship early that allows them to do what you did have a huge advantage.

Met my wife when I was 25.

I bet you are correct. Having a supportive partner is one of the worlds greatest super powers!!

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Post by giantg2 »

biohax2015 wrote: post #11
giantg2 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You had no burnout or resentment because you had an enjoyable working environment with what sound like just rewards and you were able to learn valuable things. That's pretty rare in my experience. My anecdotal evidence is the opposite. I worked extra hours and volunteered for a long time. I took responsibility for things nobody else wanted. My raises and bonuses were trivial. I had one promotion early on from entry l…

Did you advocate for yourself? Doing good work is half the battle. The other half is "sales and marketing" i.e making sure that people are aware that you're a good worker.

Not too much. They were already singing my praises so there wasn't really anything to add. One of the main problems was it was a dying area of the company that ended up getting outsourced about a year after I switched teams.

Re: Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Post by wslh »

chollida1 wrote: post #2

I think this is more about manual labour but I'll take the opposite side when it comes to white collar work that working more hours can be better early on in your career. When I was just out of school and in my early 20s I worked as much as I could, I probably did close to 12 hours days in my 20s. I think I probably averaged an all nighter a month for a few years and worked at least one day on weekends and I loved ev…

> I think this is more about manual labour but I'll take the opposite side when it comes to white collar work that working more hours can be better early on in your career.

I have the exact opposite real work experience: I can sustain more manual labor than performing thinking demanding activities.

Re: Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Post by giantg2 »

tokai wrote: post #17
giantg2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! I'll have to read these. Seems like a lot of those conditions have been correlated with other attributes, such as lower income, etc. I wonder if working longer hours is really just a result of things like money problems causing the stress causing other issues.

Just grabbed a selection of both new and a bit older articles from okay sources. There is a lot of studies and reviews on the subject. Try checking for articles citing those three if you want to dive deeper. I believe it should be a good jumping off point.

Yeah, I mean I've seen a bunch of different ones exploring different factors. I was just wondering what was new about the one in the article (that the article didn't really cover and the link in the article took me to another article but not the actual study).

Re: Working more than 55 hours a week kills 750k people a year worldwide

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Post by OrvalWintermute »

> In relation to specific diseases, the ILO indicates that 32.4% of deaths at work are due to circulatory problems...

In the US military I was fortunate to be part of a team training for some specific events similar to long distance orienteering set apart from my normal run a 4m - 10k a morning routine in a paratrooper battalion. During this training my resting heart rate dropped from 38 BPM to 25 BPM as our workouts kept our heart rates elevated in that sweet spot for 10+ hours a day. I felt as though I had limitless energy and slept so deeply.

I think for some occupations and risk factors, more work of specific types is actually a giant plus.

We have too many people dying of issues relating to our sedentary lifestyles and cushy office jobs.

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