Can I make this work with my Google Voice number?
Same question. No RCS, no iMessage... Us few Google Voice users have been forgotten by Google. I live in constant fear that the service will be "spring cleaned".
Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
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How so? Other than the security issues that get exploited by NSO group from time to time (that appear to be mitigated fairly well by lockdown mode if that's something that's important to you) or the obvious flaw that you can't talk to anyone that doesn't have an iPhone it seems to be a perfectly good platform. The alternatives either have worse encryption (Telegram, RCS), worse privacy (WhatsApp), or the same platfor…
iMessage is the LastPass of messaging apps. This has been endlessly discussed and I want people to use their curiosity to help direct them to why I would comment in this way. In practice (not whitepaper or the ideal implementation), it is no more secure than sms (actually worse)
This is absolutely not true. iMessage is a full E2E implementation; it’s nothing like SMS.
Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
iMessage is the LastPass of messaging apps. This has been endlessly discussed and I want people to use their curiosity to help direct them to why I would comment in this way. In practice (not whitepaper or the ideal implementation), it is no more secure than sms (actually worse)
The joke will be when they increase iMessage security to prevent these solutions from working well ;)
That's the thing tho: it will never be secure because its the skeleton key. It was never truly intended to be secure. Same reason why only WebKit's allowed on all billion+ iPhones. Access is only guranteed if its monocultural.
Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
#94Hi Eric! Big fan of Beeper, Pebble, and hopefully the yet-to-be small android phone. I had some questions that I was ill-equipped to answer, and hoped I could throw them your way! When I installed beeper, I mentioned it to my friends that I was using it as a bridge for Signal. They threw a pretty big conniption about the implementation and the fact that all our messages were being routed through an unknown server in…
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Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
#95I just downloaded it, and can't get past the landing/sign-in page: "Google sign in error.null" Unfortunately, signing in with Google is the only option.
For some reason this security setting was turned off on my account even though I don't remember turning it off and use sign in with Google in other places. https://help.beeper.com/en_US/beeper-mini/beeper-mini-how-to...
Thanks! I was having this issue as well.
Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
#96JJTech is a high school student. Neat! https://jjtech.dev/reverse-engineering/imessage-explained/
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They wouldn't have to ban it, they could just alter the protocol to make it impossible. iMessage is designed to only work on devices manufactured by a single company. All of those devices have secure cryptographic elements built into them. It's not a stretch to think Apple could lock down iMessage under the guise of security.
Again, they would have to answer to EU courts. They are legally required to be interoperable now. Banning non-iPhones would definitely be litigated.
Good luck testifying that they specifically adjusted a private internal protocol to block an App vs improve/iterate on the existing protocol.
Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
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Right. What is stopping Apple from requiring a valid unique device key with every request now?
Old hardware that doesn't have it. Are they gonna ban my iMac from 2009 that was before iMessage was a thing?
Yes, they are. You already don't get OS updates.
Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
#99I'm on the fence about using this. I don't want to switch all my conversations over to iMessage and then have Apple figure out how to ban this. That kind of feels like a recipe for lost messages.
If Apple bans this they will have to answer to EU courts. I very much doubt they will in this political climate.
And if Beeper keeps it up they’re likely running afoul of the CFAA in the US.
The EU doesn’t rule the world. They haven’t forced iMessage open yet, and Apple is clearly trying to avoid it with their announced RCS support.
I don’t think things are as far along as you do.
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#100It's really impressive that a high school student [1] has managed to reverse engineer iMessage. What I'm wondering is: 1. How stable is it; would it be trivial for Apple to patch this? 2. If it's as simple as reverse engineering the protocols, how has it taken this long? [1] https://github.com/JJTech0130
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