"hackers stole" == "company sold"
sed s/"hackers stole"/"company sold"/g
Was my comment that bad?
23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
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Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#212Something does not add up. "23andMe said the data breach was caused by customers reusing passwords" Yet 14,000 accounts were breached in one go? Where did these passwords come from? Maybe there was another related breach (something like lastpass can explain this)? Also, using the "DNA Relatives" features the hackers were able to access personal information relating to 6.9 million individuals. That means each one of t…
14000 accounts 7M users? That ratio is a bit skewed.
Its because you can get some data if you opt in to relationship tracking. For instance, my 23andme shows like 1,500 genetic relatives. So saw you are jewish and opt-in to this feature. The person can login to the account and see X amount of other jewish people and their names. This is the data that was stolen from my understanding. Not the actual raw DNA of those individuals. With the current gaza/israel issue, you can see why someone having a list of the names of thousands of Jewish people might cause some concern.
Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, the reason for privacy is because the profit motive of capitalism is not sufficiently restrained as to protect citizens from being abused by corporations?
How do you make the leap to it being an issue of capitalism? There are plenty of bad actors who could use this information (or other hacked info) who are not a corporation seeking profit.
Capitalism isn't about corporations, it's about capital.
Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering one of the hacker's first actions was to offer for sale data identifying people of Jewish or Chinese descent I think that's a very valid concern.
Did anybody actually buy it though? This could be misdirection, or just misguided marketing based on historical instances of abuse. China isn't known for trying to repatriate descendants, and it's not exactly difficult to find Jews. Ancestry data would certainly be of interest to a particular demographic known to discriminate by caste. There's no escaping your low-class heritage when anyone can look up your stolen DN…
"not exactly difficult"...
I'm not Jewish, but I feel like there's some sort of reason for them not wanting a list of who they and where they live to exist.
Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#215>“We believe that the threat actor may have then, in violation of our terms of service, accessed 23andme.com accounts without authorization and obtained information from those accounts.”
It's funny that they had to note "without authorization".
Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
What really interests me is "Are ToS changes absolutely binding?" I am also not a lawyer. But I think there are two types of changes to ToS. One is purely administrative. For example, they might change the methods available to reach for support. For example, they might say that you are no longer able to send a Fax to get support help. Or that their domain name changed. Second is something that changes the service tha…
Not just "are the changes binding" but also "are the changes relevant". The changes might be binding for future services, but previous services were provided under the old terms; so you can make an argument that any arbitration clause in the new terms doesn't apply to services rendered before the new terms took effect.
Most terms of service include automatic acceptance of future changes, so if you continue to use the service the terms apply to the past too.
“23andMe may make changes to the Terms at any time. If we make a material change to the Terms, we will notify you, such as by posting a notice on our website or sending a message to the email address associated with your account. By continuing to access or use the Services, you agree to be bound by the revised Terms.”
Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#217Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
FYI, the police is able to find criminals now by finding DNA sequences similarities with your relatives. Not saying this is good or bad, I am just saying you don't know the extent of the impact to your personal freedom when your relative's DNA is shared.
Well they can narrow it down to the family, unless it was the very DNA giver that left that DNA sample on the scene of the crime. And since 23andme (as I assume others) don't do these anonymously, there is no hope. Unless people use someone as a proxy (i.e. I-1 give my sample to a male colleague to send it as his-2, he-2 gives his sample to someone else to send it as his-3, and so on..). Police would eventually find…
They can narrow it down to individual family members, based on how much DNA overlap there is.
Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
FYI, the police is able to find criminals now by finding DNA sequences similarities with your relatives. Not saying this is good or bad, I am just saying you don't know the extent of the impact to your personal freedom when your relative's DNA is shared.
I can help track down distant family members who have committed crimes? Sounds like a plus. I think the angst about this comes from men who don't want their status as fathers of illegitimate children (or, rapists when they were younger) unmasked.
Your father submits his DNA to 23 and Me.
One of your brothers committed a crime.
The police, during an investigation, find your father's data and realize that one of his children is the criminal.
Congratulations! You are now the target of an investigation, the purpose of which may not be to find the truth, but to successfully convict a suspect.
Re: 23andMe confirms hackers stole ancestry data on 6.9M users
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This disaster is the perfect counter-argument to those always saying "why do you care so much about privacy. It doesn't affect you when I share things. You can just choose not to do it" While I agree it's a perfect counter-argument to that, is that what people always say? I'm not sure I've heard that argument as much as "why do you care so much about privacy?" full stop. As in, they don't really understand why anyo…
> What do you think will happen to people who had their ancestry data stolen here? Sounds like an absolute treasure trove for a life insurance company. Or, would you disagree?
>Sounds like an absolute treasure trove for a life insurance company. Or, would you disagree?
Disagree. Life insurance companies already requir blood tests and urine tests before insuring a consumer. They already have this data