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Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by olah_1 »

matchbok wrote: post #25
cdchn wrote: post #7

The unfortunately fatalist question to ask is... how long until Apple shuts it down?

I give it a week, tops. The next iOS update at the latest.

Right. What is stopping Apple from requiring a valid unique device key with every request now?

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by mtlynch »

graphe wrote: post #19

Beeper was made by the pebble dev. Eric should have read the goal by Eli goldratt, it's a case study of TOC. I still love my slides of time. Pebble: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_(watch) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/getpebble/pebble-time-a...

For anyone confused, "TOC" refers to "theory of constraints":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_constraints

I also enjoyed The Goal and found it helpful for my manufacturing business, although I'm having trouble understanding how it connects to this blog post.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by drcongo »

mikestew wrote: post #28
drcongo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's Pebble? It's mentioned on the Beeper home page too with no context as though everyone should know what it is, sadly I don't.

One of the original smartwatches, if not the original: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/getpebble/pebble-e-pape... (At least I think that's what the word salad of parent is referring to.)

Thanks. I had one of those and quite liked it.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

happyhardcore wrote: post #29
Obscurity4340 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its more a commentary on how amateur it is in my respectful view. iMessage is a fundamentally unserious "product" in search of enough collateral flaws to harm those foolish enough to depend on it for anything.

How so? Other than the security issues that get exploited by NSO group from time to time (that appear to be mitigated fairly well by lockdown mode if that's something that's important to you) or the obvious flaw that you can't talk to anyone that doesn't have an iPhone it seems to be a perfectly good platform. The alternatives either have worse encryption (Telegram, RCS), worse privacy (WhatsApp), or the same platfor…

iMessage is the LastPass of messaging apps. This has been endlessly discussed and I want people to use their curiosity to help direct them to why I would comment in this way. In practice (not whitepaper or the ideal implementation), it is no more secure than sms (actually worse)

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by szszrk »

OK, took a while to figure out what it is, as I barely know anyone using iphone. Though it's not for me, BUT if they deliver this:

> Over time, we will be adding all networks that Beeper supports into Beeper Mini, including SMS/RCS, WhatsApp, Messenger, Signal, Telegram, Instagram, Twitter, Slack, Discord, Google Chat and Linkedin. We'll also bring Beeper Mini to desktop and iOS.

I'm interested, even if it's paid. I'd love to have most of those apps gone and use a cleaner one.

Re: Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android

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Post by runjake »

paul7986 wrote: post #37

Isnt Apple adopting RCS and won't that solve the green / blue bubble issue? Personally if it's a business / marketing advantage unless their hand is forced for business reasons they should never change it.

Apple is adopting RCS, and no, that won't solve the green/blue bubble issue. They'll still distinguish RCS and SMS from iMessage.

iMessage is Apple's value-add and has its own app ecosystem, apparently/allegedly true E2E.

  *> Personally if it's a business / marketing advantage unless their hand is forced for business reasons they should never change it.*
Yep, that is Apple's intent, according to Apple emails leaked from various court cases.
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