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Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#41

My problem with fediverse is that is not that well connected. There are some mastodon instances, but I am not sure if you are a user on one instance you have access to other instance. I am not sure if we have fediverse, or if we have isolated siloses. I am asking if that is the case.

it is probably not unless you are on some very extreme instances.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#42

My problem with fediverse is that is not that well connected. There are some mastodon instances, but I am not sure if you are a user on one instance you have access to other instance. I am not sure if we have fediverse, or if we have isolated siloses. I am asking if that is the case.

In general, yes, a user on any mastodon instance can access any other - they are not siloed.

Even further: a user on a mastodon instance can see & interact with posts on Lemmy (the Reddit alternative), pics on Pixelfed (=Instagram), videos on Peertube (=Youtube), and content from a long list of other services, all from their single mastodon instance.

(There are exceptions, e.g. you could run a siloed internal company mastodon, and notably server administrators are able to block other servers entirely - but as a user you can always choose a server that federates as widely as you'd like, and if you self-host you're unlikely to block or be blocked by anybody)

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#43

My problem with fediverse is that is not that well connected. There are some mastodon instances, but I am not sure if you are a user on one instance you have access to other instance. I am not sure if we have fediverse, or if we have isolated siloses. I am asking if that is the case.

If your instance on which the user is on or the other one blocks that instance you will not have access.

The user identity is an issue on the fediverse and it is know by the creators of ActivityPub. There are plans to create a way for global identities which will solve many of these issues.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#44

My problem with fediverse is that is not that well connected. There are some mastodon instances, but I am not sure if you are a user on one instance you have access to other instance. I am not sure if we have fediverse, or if we have isolated siloses. I am asking if that is the case.

I see people repeatedly misunderstand this aspect unfortunately, because it's hurting the adoption. It has no effect what instance you are on, you are all on Activity Pub. You can join any instance you want and it will be no different from joining any other instance. You can interact with anyone on any instance. This is just like how you only need to know my Email address to send me a message, you do not need to also…

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Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#45

Video played perfectly for me, though I did leave it at 1x because I didn't want to miss anything with his accent. My only mild disappointment is he seems to feel that Mastodon is free of censorship. I've never installed or reviewed configuring Mastodon because my understanding is the someone, somewhere, can somehow interfere with what a user sees in a feed. Anyone familiar with this? Is it just default install confi…

It's the same censorship-model as with mail servers: You can use a big shared hoster and the rules of that hosts country and their policies apply. You can run your own and you will have to deal with any local legal requirements and get to set (but also have to enforce) your own policies. In reality, (self-)censorship is the smallest of your problems, spam and abuse of your service is what you'll be mostly dealing with.

For a small instance with only a handful of friend and family accounts that effort (spam, abuse, legal stuff) will take less than 1h per month. On a large instance that can become a full persons job.

Source: I'm running my own fediverse instance since 2011 (using Friendica, predates Mastodon) - as well as my own mail server.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#46

I have a question that I was hoping the video would answer, but I didn't see. The Fediverse is always described with that interconnected diagram where everything talks to each other over ActivityPub. But I never see that in practice. For example: If I have a mastodon.social account, how does that work with pixelfed.social or tube.jenna.net? Do I use my mastodon.social account to sign up to those other services? Or to…

It’s federated like email. If you have a Gmail account, you can talk to people with a Yahoo account. You can’t use your Gmail account to log into another server, though, unless that server adds code to specifically support it. They’re separate servers operated by separate entities.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#47

This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…

Compared to the good old days of LAMP, self hosting services like Mastodon is fairly costly (in RAM, DB space, etc).

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#48
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maybe not exactely what you're looking for (not open source and not non profit) but there is some solutions out there like this one: https://elest.io/

More like https://discourse.org/ . You can run it yourself, but you can also just have them ding a credit card every month and not think about it again. Wordpress has Automattic, and I'd like to see the same for Peertube and Mastodon. With Mastodon, one can then go to folks and say, "Heh, here is a turnkey solution to migrate to for your 1:many and social interaction needs, fully managed." As long as these applicatio…

I am using https://masto.host/ for Mastodon and https://elest.io/ for Lemmy. They are fully managed.

I'm not worried about who owns my data, but I do want to have a stable identity. The first Mastodon server I signed up with mysteriously disappeared after a couple of weeks, so I decided I was better off paying a small monthly fee to put it on my own domain.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#49

I have a question that I was hoping the video would answer, but I didn't see. The Fediverse is always described with that interconnected diagram where everything talks to each other over ActivityPub. But I never see that in practice. For example: If I have a mastodon.social account, how does that work with pixelfed.social or tube.jenna.net? Do I use my mastodon.social account to sign up to those other services? Or to…

There are some initiatives that are doing more what you are looking for, vocata and activitypod. These treat activitypub more like a modern email server, that recieves and sends activities to different federated servers.

In a world where those would be used, "apps" would just subscribe to the activities that interest them, and you would be one user that adds apps to your system. You'd be able to have something closer to google suite, where your calendar app can display notes from your note app, or your notes app could display shared notes, comments etc.

Today though, most of the big activitypub players decided to implement their own activitypub server and don't really follow the protocol to the letter, so unfortunately it's not as interoperable as it could be. You also need to have an account for each service, which is unfortunate.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#50

My problem with fediverse is that is not that well connected. There are some mastodon instances, but I am not sure if you are a user on one instance you have access to other instance. I am not sure if we have fediverse, or if we have isolated siloses. I am asking if that is the case.

I see people repeatedly misunderstand this aspect unfortunately, because it's hurting the adoption. It has no effect what instance you are on, you are all on Activity Pub. You can join any instance you want and it will be no different from joining any other instance. You can interact with anyone on any instance. This is just like how you only need to know my Email address to send me a message, you do not need to also…

> it will be no different from joining any other instance

This is not 100% accurate. Who the collective members of a server follow affects the content shown in searches and feeds to some degree.

For example, compare https://hachyderm.io/tags/cybertruck to https://mastodon.social/tags/cybertruck

As you can see, the bigger server 50% more posts, 40% more participants, 25% more posts today.

As you surf your "local server", you don't get "everything" from the Fediverse. If you care about that, you likely want to join the "biggest" server you can.

Personally I don't care too much about this. There's more content added to the Fediverse than I have time to consume, and so seeing a slice based on who I currently follow and the server I utilize is plenty for me.

But it also makes sense if it bothers people who don't want to miss out on some zeitgeist.

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