Then people will start using AI to generate random traffic noise to fool AI watching them.
Of course they won't. Classic techno-libertarian fantasy.
AI and Mass Spying
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#82I think another aspect of this is mass criminal law enforcement enabled by AI. Many of our criminal laws are written with the implicit assumption that it takes resources to investigate and prosecute a crime, and that this will limit the effective scope of the law. Prosecutorial discretion. Putting aside for the moment the (very serious) injustice that comes with the inequitable use of prosecutorial discretion, let's…
If it increases ticket issuance for passenger vehicle noise violations (eg - "sport" exhausts, booming stereo system, motorcycles), I'm down.
"If it hurts people I hate I accept"
- Every endorsement of authoritarian rule ever
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#83Is mass spying not already going on?
Mass spying, and mass killing based on it, assisted by AI.
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#85I don't know why this isn't being discussed more. The reality of the surveillance state is that the sheer amount of data couldn't realistically be monitored - AI very directly solves this problem by summarizing complex data. This, IMO, is the real danger of AI, at least in the short term - not a planet of paperclips, not a moral misalignment, not a media landscape bereft of creativity - but rather a tool for targetin…
People are building that alongside/within this community, eg at Palantir, for many years now
YC CEO is also ex Palantir, early employee. Another YC partner backs other invasive police surveillance tech currently. They love this stuff financially and politically.
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#86I think another aspect of this is mass criminal law enforcement enabled by AI. Many of our criminal laws are written with the implicit assumption that it takes resources to investigate and prosecute a crime, and that this will limit the effective scope of the law. Prosecutorial discretion. Putting aside for the moment the (very serious) injustice that comes with the inequitable use of prosecutorial discretion, let's…
I don't think it'd be chaos. I think the laws would be adjusted.
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#87Is mass spying not already going on?
There’s a difference. If they wanted to spy on me today, they’d have to look at the logs my ISP keeps into perpetuity to find my usernames on HN and then some unfortunate person has to read hundreds or thousands of comments and take extensive notes of the controversial political and social opinions that I hold.
Additionally, even without ISP logs, an AI could find my accounts online by comparing my writing style and the facts of my life that get mentioned in brief passing across all my comments. It’s probably a more unique fingerprint than a lot of people realize.
With an AI, someone would just have to ask with the prompt “what are the antisocial opinions of first name last name”? And it’d be instant and effectively free compared to the dozens of hours and high expense of doing it manually
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#88I think another aspect of this is mass criminal law enforcement enabled by AI. Many of our criminal laws are written with the implicit assumption that it takes resources to investigate and prosecute a crime, and that this will limit the effective scope of the law. Prosecutorial discretion. Putting aside for the moment the (very serious) injustice that comes with the inequitable use of prosecutorial discretion, let's…
> Is this a better world,
If the same monitoring is present on buses and private planes, homeless hostels and mega-mansions then it absolutely is better.
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#89Soon in the name of "security" you'll have your face scanned on average every few minutes and it's going to be mandatory in many aspects of our lives. That's the pathetic world IT has helped to build.
> That's the pathetic world IT has helped to build.
It's inevitable, I reckon, but it would have taken much longer without F/OSS.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it increases ticket issuance for passenger vehicle noise violations (eg - "sport" exhausts, booming stereo system, motorcycles), I'm down.
"If it hurts people I hate I accept" - Every endorsement of authoritarian rule ever
Feels pretty legit though. My freedom-from is impacted by other people's freedom-to: by curtailing their freedom, mine is expanded. Sure they won't like it - but I don't like it the other way round either.