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My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

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Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#21
Video played perfectly for me, though I did leave it at 1x because I didn't want to miss anything with his accent.

My only mild disappointment is he seems to feel that Mastodon is free of censorship. I've never installed or reviewed configuring Mastodon because my understanding is the someone, somewhere, can somehow interfere with what a user sees in a feed.

Anyone familiar with this? Is it just default install configuration that leads to this behavior?

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#22
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? Because it's a pain in the ass and people don't care enough to. People don't want the fediverse, they want an app. They don't want to know about cloud and infra primitives, they want their photos in their phone and for them to be safe and shareable. They want their iMessages and WhatsApp to JustWork(TM). > How can we make…

Most people would like the privacy, but not the responsibility and concomitant work.

Then a goal should make the responsibility as minimal as possible (buying a box, inserting a thumb drive and answering a few questions and you're off to the races).

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#23

Video played perfectly for me, though I did leave it at 1x because I didn't want to miss anything with his accent. My only mild disappointment is he seems to feel that Mastodon is free of censorship. I've never installed or reviewed configuring Mastodon because my understanding is the someone, somewhere, can somehow interfere with what a user sees in a feed. Anyone familiar with this? Is it just default install confi…

Censorship policies are dependent on the specific instance where you signed up and they are almost always very clearly spelled out. The main instance for example clearly spells out five rules including four forbidden categories here: https://mastodon.social/auth/sign_up Contravening these rules can absolutely get you deplatformed.

I've also seen the signup page of other instances having dozens of categories of prohibited posts.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#24

Video played perfectly for me, though I did leave it at 1x because I didn't want to miss anything with his accent. My only mild disappointment is he seems to feel that Mastodon is free of censorship. I've never installed or reviewed configuring Mastodon because my understanding is the someone, somewhere, can somehow interfere with what a user sees in a feed. Anyone familiar with this? Is it just default install confi…

If you host your own instance, you have full control. If you don't host your own instance, then whoever hosts it for you has control (as they are the admin for your instance).

This means you tradeoff someone administrating the server and moderating content (shared instances often have a TOS) for full freedom. i.e. If you self host you have full, manual control for better or worse.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#25

Video played perfectly for me, though I did leave it at 1x because I didn't want to miss anything with his accent. My only mild disappointment is he seems to feel that Mastodon is free of censorship. I've never installed or reviewed configuring Mastodon because my understanding is the someone, somewhere, can somehow interfere with what a user sees in a feed. Anyone familiar with this? Is it just default install confi…

> Mastodon is free of censorship

It's like email. If you have a server and I have a server we can talk. If one of us uses someone else's server then that server can censor us.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#26

I have a question that I was hoping the video would answer, but I didn't see. The Fediverse is always described with that interconnected diagram where everything talks to each other over ActivityPub. But I never see that in practice. For example: If I have a mastodon.social account, how does that work with pixelfed.social or tube.jenna.net? Do I use my mastodon.social account to sign up to those other services? Or to…

If pixelfed and mastodon are federated with each other, you should be able to view users and posts from both sites on either site - no need to sign up for both.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#27

I have a question that I was hoping the video would answer, but I didn't see. The Fediverse is always described with that interconnected diagram where everything talks to each other over ActivityPub. But I never see that in practice. For example: If I have a mastodon.social account, how does that work with pixelfed.social or tube.jenna.net? Do I use my mastodon.social account to sign up to those other services? Or to…

You just follow those users at their @user@pixelfed.social or @user@tube.jenna.net handle. Depending on the service you are using there can be caveats (I think pixelfed only tracks new content from mastodon after you follow the user) but otherwise it "just works".

caveat: This only works as long as your instance hasn't de-federated those instances.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#28
post #12

Peertube is supposed to be peer to peer but even though there's 8 seeders right now I can't even watch the video...

I'm always curious to see if peertube is going to work but I have to admit it started immediately, said it had 9 seeders, and worked fine. But I wonder how it works after a few weeks when it's not being HN'd and the author isn't seeding it.

Obviously then it won’t. It’s like asking how is a YouTube video going to work if YouTube the entity stops hosting it.

Honestly, the peer tube method of storing media is actually kinda nice. Not everything needs to live forever, and it brings back a semblance of privacy.

On the other hand of this, larger companies can pin smaller videos on other instances while supplementing with their own ad supported videos.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#29

This is awesome. Why don't more people self host / host everything themselves these days in the age of privacy? How can we make more people self host their data rather than giving it to corporations? A start might be to tell people to use extensions that are adblockers and to disable javascript on websites and even use and setup pi-holes to take back their data and privacy. There must be more that can be done here bu…

Because self hosting is a big commitment, costly in time and resources, and just generally a skill that the vast majority of users simply don't have (and they'd be well advised not to bother). There are a few managed mastodon services for this that I've been eyeing for corporate usage as I can see the moment coming that we'd might to be on mastodon at least as Twitter/X has been imploding a bit lately. I could probably figure out self hosting but I have more urgent things to do.

Re: My Fediverse use – I'm hosting everything myself – PeerTube, Mastodon and Lemmy

#30

I have a question that I was hoping the video would answer, but I didn't see. The Fediverse is always described with that interconnected diagram where everything talks to each other over ActivityPub. But I never see that in practice. For example: If I have a mastodon.social account, how does that work with pixelfed.social or tube.jenna.net? Do I use my mastodon.social account to sign up to those other services? Or to…

You use your mastodon account to tell your mastodon instance to follow a user on the pixelfed.social instance. Your mastodon instance starts getting a feed of all the posts by that user from the pixelfed.social instance and displaying them to you in your mastodon timeline as if they were mastodon posts.

This works because while pixelfed and mastodon and tube.jenna.net display things differently, the things they are displaying are in fact very very similar. Posts by users, consisting of maybe a video, maybe an image, maybe a reference to a post they're replying to, and some text. Ultimately it will be up to the individual implementation what to do with posts that are different enough that they can't figure out a reasonable way to display them.

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