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Ask HN: How are you dealing with the job market anxiety?

#1
So I started working in the last decade(around 2011) and my safety net has always been my skills and the ability to get another job whenever I want or maximum about 6 months.

However given the current market scenario getting a new job has become so much harder that I am starting to question my skills and whether that safety net still holds true.

How are people dealing with this?

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#2
How long have you been looking for this time?

Personally, it feels harder this time, and most of the recruiters I talk to say the market is weak right now. But I’ve been seriously looking for less than a month, so it’s normal for me to not have found anything yet. I just tell myself that I’ve got through this before.

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#3
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How long have you been looking for this time? Personally, it feels harder this time, and most of the recruiters I talk to say the market is weak right now. But I’ve been seriously looking for less than a month, so it’s normal for me to not have found anything yet. I just tell myself that I’ve got through this before.

Since July, 2023 so about 6 months.

What's really different this time around is getting interviews is a big problem. Earlier you could get some interviews as well, but this time around its VERY seasonal plus and in general quite difficult.

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#4
Personally I've seen quite a few of up and downs in my market (UK contracting), this might be a bit longer than usual, but not a permanent situation.

An encouraging sign I'm seeing is that there's more permanent positions advertising higher salaries than in the past (maybe just the +20% of inflation from march 2020, but still!).

The market will change again... software is still eating the world, there will be shortage of SKILLED developers for the foreseeable future. And even if I need to make 25% less of what I used to at the peak of pandemic hiring, it's not that bad really!

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#6
Anxiety and hobbies. Leetcode grind while that happens.

I joined an european robotics startup a couple of years ago in a promising field. Things aren't looking well for the business, we've been through a couple of layoffs at this point, and I'm looking. Interesting jobs opportunities have decreased dramatically since last year and, in my field, most recruiters reach out about positions on other countries in Asia.

It's been tough. I'm not even that old, but I would like to settle down for once.

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#7

Personally I've seen quite a few of up and downs in my market (UK contracting), this might be a bit longer than usual, but not a permanent situation. An encouraging sign I'm seeing is that there's more permanent positions advertising higher salaries than in the past (maybe just the +20% of inflation from march 2020, but still!). The market will change again... software is still eating the world, there will be shortag…

I'm also seeing positive signs.

8 months ago all the usual recruiter spam emails I got disappeared. 3/4 months ago I started getting recruiter spam again, but at lower salaries than before, this month I'm starting to see decent salaries again in that spam.

I've not tried myself, but the UK market looks like it's recovering to me.

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#9
If you’re willing to take a pay cut* or a title cut, it’s still not a particularly tough market, even with what’s seemed like worse job postings and… stringent ATS requirements (at least in data-adjacent roles). Aside from that, I’ve worked on my network and reconnecting with folks, in case I need favors. I’m batting 1.000 on referrals-to-interviews, so I’ve been working to maximize that potential/reach.

* My thinking was to treat the lesser role as a contract role while looking for something at the level I wanted. Provide value, do good work, but continue to apply/talk to recruiters/interview.

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#10
I don’t think it’s actually too hard to find a job right now unless your only acceptable offer comes from FAANG or adjacent.

Yea, making 250k might not be an option while the market is down, but once things pick back up, you’re free to look around again.

Where I live (Netherlands), we still have an insane shortage of qualified developers. Some of the vendors we work with are overloaded with work because all of their clients need their services in lieu of staff.

Yeah, I don’t make 150k anymore like I did in the US South, but that’s a different conversation.

The jobs are out there if you want to do honest work for a fair wage. The unicorn startups will have money again when the economy picks back up.

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