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No.
This is clearer, and Sylvia is much more widely known: https://web.archive.org/web/20231117190207/https://gitlab.co...
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the fact several other people have resigned?
I'm not suggesting the aggrieved party is making false accusations. I just don't understand the intent behind a public letter that has no details/references. Who is the intended audience? How are they meant to evaluate the letter?
The intended audience is the Fdroid team, not any of us.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
on the contrary. open source (or free software) doesn't mean that every dispute has to be out in the open. there must be room to handle disputes privately, and the actions by some of the people involved here seem to show that they do not want to handle this in public. (whether that is justified or not is a different question, but again, without details we are unable to make that judgement) i find that dragging disput…
> doesn't mean that every dispute has to be out in the open Of course not, nor did I imply such an extreme. > we need to give people in dispute the space to resolve their issues without forcing them to face the court of public opinion. This only functions with balanced moderating forces within an internal dispute - where there is a clear power imbalance (e.g. a technical lead who holds exclusive keys to things), reso…
i respectfully disagree. the power issue can not be solved by the court of public opinion either. at best it can shame the people who refuse to be reasonable, but when that happens the damage is already done, and a reasonable solution is no longer possible.
just look at this case. from our perspective here, there are only two options: hans continues as before, or hans is entirely removed from the project. i don't see any way to come to a solution where both sides continue to be able to work together.
such a solution is only possible before the naming and shaming in public begins.
an amicable solution requires that the parties involved can speak without fear of retribution. dragging this into the public makes that pretty much impossible.
if the parties can not solve the problem on their own, they can find mediators (from their community or from outside) to help. if that is not enough the inner community, the active contributors can get involved, and only if that fails too, it may be right to make the issue public. but, at that point the choices usually have already been made (as we can see here again, with some of the people involved resigning) and our public opinion and discussion here can do nothing that would improve the situation.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not suggesting the aggrieved party is making false accusations. I just don't understand the intent behind a public letter that has no details/references. Who is the intended audience? How are they meant to evaluate the letter?
The intended audience is the Fdroid team, not any of us.
I feel silly for getting involved!
I see OP now mentions this:
> Edit 3: please note that this statement was originally addressed to the F-Droid team, not a general audience.
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#87Without more information this just comes across as yet another Code of Conduct struggle session. Depending on which position an uninformed observer - and that means all of us here - takes it is either the result of Hans being an authoritarian *-ist/*-phobe hell-bent on playing power games or of Hans successfully fighting the multi-headed woke Hydra which intends to turn the project into yet another vessel for spreadi…
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