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Yep, we had a pact with the parents of my kids and several of them caved early and now we look like the bad guys. That's ok, sometimes we have to be the bad guys. Hopefully, like me and my parents, the child appreciates later in life why the parent did things a certain way. Obviously, we have explained to them why they can't have phones yet, but they don't agree of course. For when my kids do get phones, I want a way…
Have you considered a pihole with a blocklist config which covers social media domains?
Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
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Re: Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
#122As a former student of a Minnesota district right outside Minneapolis, it's interesting to me that they were allowed at all. When I was in school in the late 90's / early aughts we weren't even supposed to have our Discman or early MP3 players on school property. We all had them of course, but if they were seen they could be confiscated - I think it was largely an empty threat but I never saw anyone push it. Some tea…
> some of the ruder study hall attendants would clear your calculators memory of games. Do you mean school-issued calculators, or personally owned ones?
Re: Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
#123As a former student of a Minnesota district right outside Minneapolis, it's interesting to me that they were allowed at all. When I was in school in the late 90's / early aughts we weren't even supposed to have our Discman or early MP3 players on school property. We all had them of course, but if they were seen they could be confiscated - I think it was largely an empty threat but I never saw anyone push it. Some tea…
In the late 90's in California, we had an open campus (no fences) and the classrooms were freestanding buildings without enclosed halls. Some students went to lunch at businesses a few blocks away. The cool kids would enroll in one period that included floating permission, so you could basically leave campus whenever you wanted. There was far more weed and ritalin than smoking or drinking. Because of parental pressures, there weren't many students who were lazy or fuck-ups.
HP 48G(X) represent. IR beam compilers, apps, and games to each other. Also, the very powerful universal remote app that could control any TV at a long distance. No one else ever touched my calculator except to verify clear memory for placement tests.
The computer lab was full of absolute shit PS/2 25 and 30, and PCjrs, but that wasn't a problem because of the laissez-faire un-management and lack of control freaks that didn't stifle creativity and exploration.
In my estimation, 97% of my graduating class went to college. Of that cohort, most ultimately became millionaires with a few centimillionaires, and a few became moderate names in academia and professional trades. (I once made the mistake of unwittingly agreeing to a blind date with someone from my graduating class, but she (a dentist) was so embarrassingly inconsiderate, unrelatable, ill-mannered, and late that I had to cut it short. Some people are just so awful that they're entertaining clichés and good story fodder.)
Re: Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
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> some of the ruder study hall attendants would clear your calculators memory of games. Do you mean school-issued calculators, or personally owned ones?
Personally owned, in my former school's case.
Re: Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
#125As a former student of a Minnesota district right outside Minneapolis, it's interesting to me that they were allowed at all. When I was in school in the late 90's / early aughts we weren't even supposed to have our Discman or early MP3 players on school property. We all had them of course, but if they were seen they could be confiscated - I think it was largely an empty threat but I never saw anyone push it. Some tea…
> some of the ruder study hall attendants would clear your calculators memory of games. Do you mean school-issued calculators, or personally owned ones?
> But they shouldn't be allowed to control what's on a personal device.
Minor students seem to have a different standard for rights. Schools regularly have dress codes and stuff. Presumably they'd say "you can have games on your calculator if you want, you just can't bring it to school."
Re: Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
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First, I object to the idea Every teacher gets to decide what they teach. There is a very prescriptive list of what the curriculum must contain, and it is assessed by standardize tests. Second, teachers aren't fungible robots. They are humans with personalities, interests, and passions. Education works best when teachers are engaged. I think you underestimate the value provided by flexibility. you might be able to re…
3/4 of teacher believe in "learning styles" which we figured out was bunk science pretty much the instant it came out. It sucks that we'll probably crush the great teacher but forcing so much standardization but the simple fact is most teachers can't be trusted to actually make good decisions or teach well.
Another simple fact is, that despite all that effort and forced curriculum and years of attending - most people don't understand even basic science. So I question, that the current system is working efficiently at all.
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I don't call her that in public.
I don’t know why everyone got caught up telling this public forum is public. Saying that about a partner anywhere is pretty awful, public or not.
Oh. Right. We're at Hackernews.
Re: Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
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Personally owned, in my former school's case.
If I found out a school deleted files from one of my kid's personal devices without my permission, I'd be livid.
Re: Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban
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First, I object to the idea Every teacher gets to decide what they teach. There is a very prescriptive list of what the curriculum must contain, and it is assessed by standardize tests. Second, teachers aren't fungible robots. They are humans with personalities, interests, and passions. Education works best when teachers are engaged. I think you underestimate the value provided by flexibility. you might be able to re…
3/4 of teacher believe in "learning styles" which we figured out was bunk science pretty much the instant it came out. It sucks that we'll probably crush the great teacher but forcing so much standardization but the simple fact is most teachers can't be trusted to actually make good decisions or teach well.
Do you expect better outcomes if they quit and you replace them with training videos?
Call me a skeptic, but I dont think standard lesson plans will move the needle for a shitty teacher that doesn't give a shit. They probably wont even engage with that standard lesson plan.
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Children are often hardest on their own caregivers though, so the more you look like a parent figure the more they rebel. Of course nowadays corporal punishment is 'child abuse' so the child is emboldened knowing they can do whatever they like, including violence, with absolute impunity from physical pain.
corporal punishment is child abuse. It does not mean children can do whatever they like. You might find it difficult to find alternatives, but better alternatives than violence exists. Save your children the costs of therapy as adults, and focus on real emotional health.