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Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Post by KetoManx64 »

notpushkin wrote: post #80
brightlancer wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A universal basic income, that is an income which is _universal_ and _fixed_ in its amount, will only create inflation: everyone gets equal additional money, everyone gets additional purchasing power, everyone creates more demand, prices go up. A stronger economy is always better, but politicians usually manage to screw that one up, also. But I don't think all of that is a major issue here. Microsoft and IBM are taki…

> A universal basic income, that is an income which is _universal_ and _fixed_ in its amount, will only create inflation: everyone gets equal additional money, everyone gets additional purchasing power, everyone creates more demand, prices go up. Not really, it will also redistribute wealth. Let's say I have $1000 and you have $100. If we get additional $100 each, your purchasing power would now be 2/11 of mine inste…

And then you as a business owner charge $10 more for the items you sell at your store in order to offdet the fact that the government is forcefully taking momey from you to distribute it.

Do you really see it going another way? Taking money from people through force just distributes it back to the people that get the handouts.. eg. Inflation.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Post by notpushkin »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #81
notpushkin wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A universal basic income, that is an income which is _universal_ and _fixed_ in its amount, will only create inflation: everyone gets equal additional money, everyone gets additional purchasing power, everyone creates more demand, prices go up. Not really, it will also redistribute wealth. Let's say I have $1000 and you have $100. If we get additional $100 each, your purchasing power would now be 2/11 of mine inste…

And then you as a business owner charge $10 more for the items you sell at your store in order to offdet the fact that the government is forcefully taking momey from you to distribute it. Do you really see it going another way? Taking money from people through force just distributes it back to the people that get the handouts.. eg. Inflation.

Yeah, that's why I'm against it, too. Bad incentives all the way.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Post by RobotToaster »

rchaud wrote: post #49
aorth wrote: post #47

Ouch. I sponsored the developer on GitHub for a few months precisely because I realized that we need to support independent developers who are in the trenches building un-sexy software like SMS, Gallery, Calendar, etc. I don't blame them for selling, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth...

We need a Mozilla-type organization that is a nonprofit and focuses on open-source computing tools and apps. Operating system, file managers, galleries, email clients, the works. The sad reality is that Mozilla once did all these things, but lack of funding meant that many efforts were eventually discontinued. As great as Mozilla is, they too are effectively 'captured' due to their reliance on Google funding. Firefox…

Mozilla pays executives highly while cutting programming jobs.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Post by matkoniecz »

Chatting wrote: post #45

This is unethical. I don't necessarily blame the developer for selling: I understand that some offers are difficult to refuse. But I absolutely do blame him for being dishonest to his users and contributors. No one was told about this. People only found out about the sale by chance, because someone noticed that the Play Store listing details were changed and made a post on Reddit. When confronted on GitHub, the devel…

Note that https://www.patreon.com/tiborkaputa is up and collecting money, the same for funding requests at https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/General-Discussion

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Post by chr15m »

One of the contributors has forked the apps (GPL) and you can sponsor them here:

https://github.com/sponsors/naveensingh/

A good way to avoid this kind of thing is to sponsor the open source software you use regularly.

My personal rule is if I use something every day I should sponsor it.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Post by wesapien »

Chatting wrote: post #45

This is unethical. I don't necessarily blame the developer for selling: I understand that some offers are difficult to refuse. But I absolutely do blame him for being dishonest to his users and contributors. No one was told about this. People only found out about the sale by chance, because someone noticed that the Play Store listing details were changed and made a post on Reddit. When confronted on GitHub, the devel…

This also compounded by getting users to buy his "pR0" version that he says will be free ads and your data private forever

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Post by whatevaa »

mcpackieh wrote: post #40
dessant wrote: post #38

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Some of the largest projects on F-Droid are all funded either by having a paid version on Google Play, accepting donations, or a company funding their development by hiring the maintainers. Most of the software you can install from a distro repository are also developed in large part by people that are compensated in some form, if the project requires continued development. Money always ends up in the equation when y…

You're missing a big part of the equation: the leopard exists in places where developers can push updates directly to users with minimal if any oversight from commercially independent reviewers. Debian and F-Droid build packages from source given to them by the developers, they don't trust developer builds. Therefore even though these Simple apps have sold to a malware company, that company won't be able to push upda…

> On the other hand, on GNU/Linux desktops it's perfectly feasible to "finish" an application and leave it unmaintained for 15 years, people will still be able to use it.

Oh no, only if it buildable from source. Binary compitability in Desktop Linux is non-existant, even Linus Tovarldis has ranted about this in the past. Even source is not immune to rot, if no maintainer steps up, nobody will package it, and god forbid the application uses something like QT4, while the distro decides to drop QT4 altogether...

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