Judge: Amazon "cannot claim shock" that bathroom spycams were used as advertised
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#3You wonder why they even have a review team if this passed.
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#4Is there an archive snapshot of the Towel bar Cam product page as displayed by Amazon?
Kinda wondering what the product actually looks like, and how Amazon allowed it to be presented.
Edit: whoa, @navels how'd you do that?! Thank you, amazing: https://web.archive.org/web/20230527030738/https://www.amazo...
The product reviews are creepy.
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Rest of my comment for posterity:
There's an image in TFA, though it's only a partial, limited view: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/MS-v-...
Another article from yesterday contains a zoomed in image but no description: https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2023/12/amazon-may-be-...
If we knew the product ID it could be checked for existence on archive.org.
Anyhow, the research link I used is: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22it+wont+attract+attention...
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> Perhaps most alarming to the plaintiff, Amazon's Product Safety Team specifically inspected the camera to "ensure" that Amazon wasn't platforming a product being used to “infringe privacy,” “surreptitiously record others for sexual purposes,” or “create and store child sex abuse material.”
This is the key bit that makes it different from your examples.
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#6I love technology, but some things we're able to build today cheaply and using mass-market parts concerns me. Hidden cameras can be so good now that it is impractical for someone to find them.
You may disagree with that assertion, but I'd put to you that maybe you just haven't seen some of the top-end products where the only clue is pin-hole sized, or even invisible like hidden behind the LCD screen of a set top box/clock/etc.
Re: Judge: Amazon "cannot claim shock" that bathroom spycams were used as advertised
#7So can I sell a camera with the following description?
SpyCam
Disclaimer: should not be used for spying
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If Facebook showed illegal images on its platform and didn't do anything to counter that the I think most people would argue that it was Facebook's fault. Why is it so hard to imagine holding corporations to higher standards?
And for all the examples you gave: Facebook marketplace has safety features to try to prevent robberies. Gun shops do background checks to avoid selling to murderers.
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#9A spy camera that looks like a towel hook seems like a product that should be illegal to sell. For what legitimate purpose would somebody want a towel hook camera? Don't most people put towel hooks in bathrooms?
It seems perfectly reasonable to hold Amazon legally responsible for selling this product even if it was a 3rd party seller (not clear from the article). A product whose intended use is to secretly record videos of people in settings where they will probably not be wearing clothes should be unlawful to sell just as it is (or should be) unlawful to knowingly record such videos without informed consent.
Re: Judge: Amazon "cannot claim shock" that bathroom spycams were used as advertised
#10You wonder why they even have a review team if this passed.
To be able to tell press inquiries "we have a review team".