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Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by pixl97 »

dumbfounder wrote: post #48
EricMausler wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered paying for the patreon regardless because you consume his content one way or another and value it?

I think ideally the creator would be compensated by PrintThatVideo, who is taking their content and repurposing it.

I mean, I expect someone to make this a module for something than can be ran on your own computer with LLAMA (or whatever) in pretty short order.

The attention market cycle is wrapping up and at this rate AI/LLMs will further kill the market for grabbing your attention by filtering that crap out. Grab the signal, filter the noise.

Yuval Noah Harari is likely correct, the future isn't about attention, it's about intimacy.

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by aftbit »

dmd wrote: post #58
bane wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on the other end of this in a way. I think it may come from having to read and write all day every day. Sometimes just having somebody yak at me for a few minutes is useful. I really enjoy watching instructional videos, especially for recipes. The demo of the cooking techniques is almost always hard to write or talk about, and easy to show. In the kitchen it works this way for me: 1. Watch the video once or twice…

Your workflow sounds like literal hell to me. I will do anything in my power to get plain text to avoid exactly the experience you are describing!

Different strokes for different folks.

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by pixl97 »

sakjur wrote: post #31
slingnow wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe if your business model includes putting things in an inconvenient format that could best be replaced by a bulleted list, you should rethink your business model.

If that's truly what you're doing, sure. If you can reduce a movie to its screenplay without losing value, that's probably what you should be doing. A recipe is a great complement to a cooking video, but reducing the value of a cooking video's value to the recipe is oversimplified. I wish we'd go the other way, where free text content is complemented by paid-for audio or video commentary. But it has to be a very dull…

A lot of this is actually caused by Google in benefiting observability of videos that are longer so they (google) can show more ads. You either get a 60 second short, or 10ish minutes. This leads content creators to stretch out their videos longer than they really should be.

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by ada1981 »

I think you could send all of that to GPT4 and ask it to read it and provide you with a step by step instruction : recipie and it would do so easily.

I didn’t see how that print out would be super useful, it’s not the complete step by step is it?

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by jader201 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #56
atticora wrote: post #23

I saw a YouTube video by a guy who specializes in building D&D characters. He spends twenty minutes going into detail on each one, and then makes the pitch for subscribing to his Patreon account with something like "members get all the details in a convenient list so that you don't have to keep going back to this video." So he's using the same bit of friction that this article is trying to solve, to fill his rice bow…

> So he's using the same bit of friction that this article is trying to solve, to fill his rice bowl. You spelled out exactly what the attention economy is about. Friction . The money is made on friction. Waste - of time, of cognitive effort, of emotions good and bad. I feel sorry for this guy, but at the same time, I wish people recognized that attention economy isn't about some nebulous attention you have too much…

I get it, but most content -- that you and I find helpful in so many different cases -- exists because it can be monetized.

And, to your point, friction-based monetization is one of the more effective ways to monetize your content.

If you can't monetize your content, what's the point in creating it? Creating a lot of this content takes time, and therefore many people won't create it if it's not worth their time.

If the world would just start paying directly for content (e.g. via Patreon), and if that was the only monetization needed, then maybe we could remove the painful friction (or other painful methods of monetization). But unfortunately, this will probably never be sufficient on its own.

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by jusquan »

This is great, thank you for sharing! I wonder what the reverse would look like. More and more nowadays, I find myself first looking on YouTube for tutorials and walkthroughs, even if they wind up being more verbose than their written counterparts.

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by robocat »

BizarroLand wrote: post #33
dheera wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another big annoyance is websites with recipes that do any of the following indcredibly bad UX patterns: - Big white page not showing any text or images until the entire page and its assets are downloaded, which means if you accidentally click something and go back you have to wait another several seconds for everything to load again - Pop up GDPR popup while hands are covered in flour and eggs - Pop up "would you li…

Don't forget the lazy-loading pages that don't properly set their flex box positions so that when you go to click on something a new link pops in at the place you were just about to click that takes you to a different page. I'm tempted to say that this is a dark pattern because when it happens to me is is almost always a "subscribe", "purchase", or "login" button.

> dark pattern

I wonder how often dark patterns are the result of goal directed A/B testing?

If the goal is set to "did the user click on an advert" - and the A/B changes are fuzzed CSS - then the results would be deviously dark.

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by TeMPOraL »

pixl97 wrote: post #61
dumbfounder wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think ideally the creator would be compensated by PrintThatVideo, who is taking their content and repurposing it.

I mean, I expect someone to make this a module for something than can be ran on your own computer with LLAMA (or whatever) in pretty short order. The attention market cycle is wrapping up and at this rate AI/LLMs will further kill the market for grabbing your attention by filtering that crap out. Grab the signal, filter the noise. Yuval Noah Harari is likely correct, the future isn't about attention, it's about intim…

> The attention market cycle is wrapping up and at this rate AI/LLMs will further kill the market for grabbing your attention by filtering that crap out. Grab the signal, filter the noise.

That's not my impression at all, but I suppose we'll see which force prevails - user filtering out noise with AI, vs. producers generating much greater volume of low-quality noise with AI tools, and some of them also using AI tools to make some types of noise harder to discern.

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by mcfedr »

dheera wrote: post #30
quartz wrote: post #22

Definitely would use this. Instructional video instead of step-by-step text is a personal pet peeve. I know it's a lot easier to just record a video to show something like "how to replace the battery on a cordless vacuum" or "removing a sink basin nut" but it's often such a painful experience for consumption (watch a moment, pause, scrub back and watch again, pause, continue, pause, all with potentially gloved hands…

Another big annoyance is websites with recipes that do any of the following indcredibly bad UX patterns: - Big white page not showing any text or images until the entire page and its assets are downloaded, which means if you accidentally click something and go back you have to wait another several seconds for everything to load again - Pop up GDPR popup while hands are covered in flour and eggs - Pop up "would you li…

You just described all websites

Re: Now I can just print that video

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Post by dan-g »

RBerenguel wrote: post #60

I kind of wrote something for this a few years ago: https://github.com/rberenguel/glancer [edited a fat-fingered copy-paste] The use-case is technical videos (like from conferences) I’m interested, but not enough to invest 20-60 minutes. Haven’t used it in a few months so the yt-dlp commands may need updating.

Sadly getting a 404 here–maybe this is a private repository?
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