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A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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Re: A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a call for service providers in these dumps to move to Passkeys faster Does it really matter? I think all of my accounts use 20char autogenerated passwords from google that are unique for each account. So if one is breached, it’s just breached. Seems to have the same protection as a passkey.

You are the outlier. This is not the norm. Passkeys do this for the broad public, with the keys backed up to ecosystem cloud storage and defended by strong security systems at Apple and Google. Lets not argue passkey sovereignty in this thread, there are efforts ongoing to make them exportable so you can manage them in password managers. I agree it is a valid concern to prevent ecosystems holding users hostage. Long…

As someone who is not at all excited about passkeys, I think they are just moving the average user into an existing enterprise. The enterprise being whatever Big Tech Company you trust the most. Then you gotta pass through one of the "trustworthy" tech companies to access anything, which is simultaneously great and also a huge ask as most of them are data vacuums.

Re: A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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In the past decade, I wonder how many stalker victims have discovered HaveIBeenPwned as the easy directing tool that their abuser used to discover and invade their accounts and privacy.. Yes, yes, I know, the site maintains that it's the victim's responsibility, prior to any bad actor taking advantage of the service, to sign up and then disable their information from showing up in the search. Because the shock and aw…

E-mail verification would make the service much more costly to run, maybe not sustainable.

If you’ve got someone’s email address, do you really need HIBP to figure out where it’s used? Wouldn’t Google give you a lot of results already?

Re: A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are the outlier. This is not the norm. Passkeys do this for the broad public, with the keys backed up to ecosystem cloud storage and defended by strong security systems at Apple and Google. Lets not argue passkey sovereignty in this thread, there are efforts ongoing to make them exportable so you can manage them in password managers. I agree it is a valid concern to prevent ecosystems holding users hostage. Long…

As someone who is not at all excited about passkeys, I think they are just moving the average user into an existing enterprise. The enterprise being whatever Big Tech Company you trust the most. Then you gotta pass through one of the "trustworthy" tech companies to access anything, which is simultaneously great and also a huge ask as most of them are data vacuums.

As someone who has to defend against credential spraying in a consumer IAM system at a fintech (which leads to financial and identity fraud), I am very excited about Passkeys. Perspectives will be driven by incentives and desired outcomes. I have the Cloudflare dashboard for our properties live and keep an eye on threat actors in realtime, as well as our identity provider dashboard around realtime Passkey uptake (at which point passwords are invalidated and unable to be downgraded back to). Providing a government credential can be used to bootstrap account recovery if all passkeys are lost.

If you have concerns about Big Tech treating Passkeys in an anti competitive fashion, I would strongly encourage you to file a complaint with the FTC when that evidence is observed (as I mention in another comment here [1]). We need these primitives to deliver a better digital experience but also need to defend against fuckery using legal and regulatory mechanisms.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38502886

Re: A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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> Not to mention all the other weird variations including haveibeenburned.com, haveigotpwned.com, haveibeenrekt.com and after someone made the suggestion following the revelation that PornHub follows me, haveibeenfucked.com That is honestly pretty hilarious of a side effect of media fame!

> haveibeenfucked.com Years ago we had friends, a couple in which the wife was pregnant. They were actually a bit embarrassed that “everyone will know that we ‘did it’”. A level of squeamishishness I could not have imagined!

That reminds me of my early twenties being embarrassed when my wife told her parents we are trying to get pregnant.

Re: A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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In the past decade, I wonder how many stalker victims have discovered HaveIBeenPwned as the easy directing tool that their abuser used to discover and invade their accounts and privacy.. Yes, yes, I know, the site maintains that it's the victim's responsibility, prior to any bad actor taking advantage of the service, to sign up and then disable their information from showing up in the search. Because the shock and aw…

E-mail verification would make the service much more costly to run, maybe not sustainable. If you’ve got someone’s email address, do you really need HIBP to figure out where it’s used? Wouldn’t Google give you a lot of results already?

Yes, you enter an email and you get a list of the hacks it's been found in, along with the type of data that's in the data breach.

At that point you just go grab the data breach from some other location and pull the data. Including passwords, which will often be reused across other services and give you access to other accounts. The breach data (or subsequent accounts accessed from the passwords) may have a lot of additional data, like location, personal preferences, message contents, etc..

It's _much_ more impactful than simply Googling someone's email address.

Re: A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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he shouldn't have mentioned goatse, or told me not to google it. my curious brain took me to a rabbit hole where several times i wished i didnt have eyes.

Let me be the one to tell you not to look up tubgirl or meatspin. The turn-of-the millennium internet was a dirty place.

Re: A decade of Have I Been Pwned

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> Not to mention all the other weird variations including haveibeenburned.com, haveigotpwned.com, haveibeenrekt.com and after someone made the suggestion following the revelation that PornHub follows me, haveibeenfucked.com That is honestly pretty hilarious of a side effect of media fame!

I've always loved pornhub's blog: https://www.pornhub.com/insights/
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