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A lot of European countries do not permit continued use of rail infrastructure while being serviced as it can be quite dangerous. [1] Switzerland is an exception to this but it results in extremely complex infrastructure projects with of course a much higher cost and more accidents. However having the infrastructure available in many cases prevents overall economic losses due to less trains etc. [1] https://www.srf.c…
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international customs checks on the train you mean? where do they do that? if i'm getting you correctly, it sounds logistically WAY harder. authorities on every train for a start, then not missing anyone, then when someone shouldn't be allowed to pass customs they're already on the train so you can't kick them off, etc.
They do that everywhere else for international trains
that's my question, where?
the only places I've done that were between countries with very special travel relationships, e.g. schengen. you can travel those countries without a passport and often no border check at all, it's not the same as uk-netherlands
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Why do custom checks happen in NL on the ground, and not on-train? The train still goes through Belgium(at least), where no customs checks would be required
international customs checks on the train you mean? where do they do that? if i'm getting you correctly, it sounds logistically WAY harder. authorities on every train for a start, then not missing anyone, then when someone shouldn't be allowed to pass customs they're already on the train so you can't kick them off, etc.
Such a weird news story. Amsterdam is running a campaign to literally ask British tourists to stay away from the city. https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/03/29/see-amsterdams-ne... And yet, the Netherlands is investing in their infrastructure to literally unload an even larger volume of tourists straight from London into the very heart of Amsterdam? What gives? This sounds awfully contradictory.
Not all international travel is party tourism. Both London and Amsterdam are important financial hubs with a lot of business travel between them, as well as popular places to visit for family-friendly reasons.
Tourism from Great Britain to Amsterdam is party tourism. They are increasing the volume of tourists they can cart in with a transportation mode that's even cheaper at the expense of taking longer trips. These are not business types. In fact British tourism is already synonym of booze tourism.
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They do that everywhere else for international trains
> everywhere else that's my question, where? the only places I've done that were between countries with very special travel relationships, e.g. schengen. you can travel those countries without a passport and often no border check at all, it's not the same as uk-netherlands
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They do that everywhere else for international trains
> everywhere else that's my question, where? the only places I've done that were between countries with very special travel relationships, e.g. schengen. you can travel those countries without a passport and often no border check at all, it's not the same as uk-netherlands
Such a weird news story. Amsterdam is running a campaign to literally ask British tourists to stay away from the city. https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/03/29/see-amsterdams-ne... And yet, the Netherlands is investing in their infrastructure to literally unload an even larger volume of tourists straight from London into the very heart of Amsterdam? What gives? This sounds awfully contradictory.
Eurostar would prefer business travellers. It may get its wish when it moves to Amsterdam Zuid station in 2036 (nearer the new business district, farther the stroopwafels).
Unless they break a few laws to discriminate against people of w certain social makeup right at the gates, what they prefer or not is really not relevant. What matters is who actually tides the trains to get to Amsterdam, and the bulk of this tourism market is not business types but drunkard booze cruisers.
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I am just echoing the article: There will not be sufficient space to handle London-bound passengers at the station, given the more intensive post-Brexit formalities. Not sure about the space intensity of pre- vs post-Brexit controls to fact-check the article.
The only appreciable difference I see a need for a border guard to physically inspect and stamp passports, which I suspect slows things down. I guess EITAS checks in the future too. Once EES comes into effect the stamps may not be necessary anyway, but much like fusion, it's perpetually 6 months away.
The main difference is that pre-2021 UK travellers simply had to show travel documents whereas now they have to get them stamped.
On the surface, it isn't clear to me why that makes much of a difference in service time, but the CEO of Eurostar pointed a finger to these changes in January: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64390979, claiming their trains carry 30% fewer passengers due to station bottlenecks.
And yes, they claim the EES checks should help speed this bottleneck.
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Why do custom checks happen in NL on the ground, and not on-train? The train still goes through Belgium(at least), where no customs checks would be required
international customs checks on the train you mean? where do they do that? if i'm getting you correctly, it sounds logistically WAY harder. authorities on every train for a start, then not missing anyone, then when someone shouldn't be allowed to pass customs they're already on the train so you can't kick them off, etc.
Why would failing a customs check cause you to be kicked off the train? Either your goods will be confiscated, or you'll be arrested etc.
Such a weird news story. Amsterdam is running a campaign to literally ask British tourists to stay away from the city. https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/03/29/see-amsterdams-ne... And yet, the Netherlands is investing in their infrastructure to literally unload an even larger volume of tourists straight from London into the very heart of Amsterdam? What gives? This sounds awfully contradictory.
Besides, those stag-party and hen-do lads and ladettes come packed in short haul EastJet flights.