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Re: Leaving F-Droid

#41

Post by KennyBlanken »

em-bee wrote: post #32
lucideer wrote: post #24

@dang given the subject of this post is censoring statements made within their own community, I'm concerned about how quickly this was dropped off frontpage due to being flagged here on HN - wondering if this is potentially an abuse of the flag button (by sockpuppets?). If not and this flagging was approved by mods for legitimate reasons please ignore this comment.

i might flag this because the statement is to vague to merit any public discussion outside of the people involved. all we get is speculations and accusations, that are not worthy of a discussion on hackernews, in my opinion.

HN links to vague "I'm stepping down" forum/mailing list/blog posts and even tweets all the time.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#42

Post by em-bee »

Timshel wrote: post #34
em-bee wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i might flag this because the statement is to vague to merit any public discussion outside of the people involved. all we get is speculations and accusations, that are not worthy of a discussion on hackernews, in my opinion.

I disagree, we might not be able to acertain the truth but I certainly want to know that there is some potential issues.

true, but without details we are not able to find out anything about the nature of these issues, and therefore it is not possible to draw any conclusions that would be helpful.

i am an f-droid user, and i am certainly concerned if there are issues in the community. but this post does not help to enlighten matters and i feel it will only attract vocal outsiders who have nothing substantial to contribute.

this issue needs to be handled internally by the active f-droid contributors, and if they are not issuing public statements with details on what is actually going on then the rest of us should stand back.

i doubt any message here is going to be helpful in resolving issues or even just learning more.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#43

Post by em-bee »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #41
em-bee wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i might flag this because the statement is to vague to merit any public discussion outside of the people involved. all we get is speculations and accusations, that are not worthy of a discussion on hackernews, in my opinion.

HN links to vague "I'm stepping down" forum/mailing list/blog posts and even tweets all the time .

yes, and sometimes someone can post some helpful background or relevant details.

that doesn't seem to be happening here.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#44

Post by ImPostingOnHN »

em-bee wrote: post #42
Timshel wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, we might not be able to acertain the truth but I certainly want to know that there is some potential issues.

true, but without details we are not able to find out anything about the nature of these issues, and therefore it is not possible to draw any conclusions that would be helpful. i am an f-droid user, and i am certainly concerned if there are issues in the community. but this post does not help to enlighten matters and i feel it will only attract vocal outsiders who have nothing substantial to contribute. this issue ne…

More details are available, but were hidden by one of the remaining project members. They're still available on archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20231117190207/https://gitlab.co...

Issue 448 is said to be relevant as well, and similarly hidden, but isn't available on archive.

The fact that a remaining project member seems to be actively hiding otherwise public discussion which would keep us more informed, seems to itself be noteworthy ("Because I felt like it" was the reason given). Indeed, that action seems to be an example of the unilateral and arbitrary exercise of power with which the former contributors are raising concerns.

One wonders if a precedent can be set for getting an HN story of potential wrongdoing buried by hiding or destroying reports or evidence of it.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#45

Post by Timshel »

em-bee wrote: post #42
Timshel wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, we might not be able to acertain the truth but I certainly want to know that there is some potential issues.

true, but without details we are not able to find out anything about the nature of these issues, and therefore it is not possible to draw any conclusions that would be helpful. i am an f-droid user, and i am certainly concerned if there are issues in the community. but this post does not help to enlighten matters and i feel it will only attract vocal outsiders who have nothing substantial to contribute. this issue ne…

The top comment now link archived issues with more context. We now know that at least 2/3 of the board had resigned.

I don't know what more do you want ? As you said we won't solve anything but with such important issues I want to be informed and not hidden and flagged.

Especially since the current plan for the mentionned Hans is to continue business as usual with no change ...

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#46

Post by Timshel »

em-bee wrote: post #43
KennyBlanken wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN links to vague "I'm stepping down" forum/mailing list/blog posts and even tweets all the time .

yes, and sometimes someone can post some helpful background or relevant details. that doesn't seem to be happening here.

But someone did, maybe refresh the comments ...

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#47

Post by lucideer »

em-bee wrote: post #42
Timshel wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree, we might not be able to acertain the truth but I certainly want to know that there is some potential issues.

true, but without details we are not able to find out anything about the nature of these issues, and therefore it is not possible to draw any conclusions that would be helpful. i am an f-droid user, and i am certainly concerned if there are issues in the community. but this post does not help to enlighten matters and i feel it will only attract vocal outsiders who have nothing substantial to contribute. this issue ne…

> this issue needs to be handled internally

What a truly odd sentiment from someone with an apparent interest in open-source community-led projects.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#48

Post by em-bee »

Timshel wrote: post #46
em-bee wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, and sometimes someone can post some helpful background or relevant details. that doesn't seem to be happening here.

But someone did, maybe refresh the comments ...

i read those. i didn't see anything helpful other than knowing that there is a second, equally vague post.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#49

Post by aredox »

em-bee wrote: post #43
KennyBlanken wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN links to vague "I'm stepping down" forum/mailing list/blog posts and even tweets all the time .

yes, and sometimes someone can post some helpful background or relevant details. that doesn't seem to be happening here.

3 out of 4 ComCo members have resigned, with the clear reason being given is that Hans doesn't respect anything and bullshits his way.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#50

Post by jgrishamhesrt »

This gives me the same feeling as the prior Linus and RMS attacks. Like an organised attempt to weaponise CoC to destroy the public image of someone important in open source. Hopefully it fails.
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