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Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

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Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

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The majority of designers use the same few software packages (a truism of most digital fields), with the same range of functions and parameters, the same trends, all reading the same internet articles, subscribed to the same creative influencers, and being churned out of the same college courses, where they all got taught out of the same text books. It's increased homogenisation at every level.

I'll reply to my own [now un-editable] comment to add, by way of balance to that comments somewhat cynical take, that some of the ubiquitous tools and techniques I mentioned have enabled a great many people to participate in these activities, who might otherwise not. The pros and cons of that too are debatable, however I certainly think we can all see some positives in the principle of technology enabling people.

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

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Funny, I'm the opposite. The old logos look fuddy-duddy, like stuff that my grandmother would have loved. The new logos make me think -- oh, maybe they're actually doing something cool and relevant today , and not stuck in outdated ideas of luxury that include full sets of china and silver and mink coats.

I'm talking about these. You serious? https://imgur.com/NyhbDFC We truly are lost.

Yes exactly. They look like they're for grandma and will go with her pearls. And a Rolls-Royce.

I don't see what's so "lost" about that. It's certainly not the type of luxury vibe that seems to speak to anything desirable today. The logos look like something out of a museum.

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

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I just don't get why companies change their branding every 5 minutes. What do you gain? Did everyone suddenly start thinking Google was new and fresh after they spent however many millions on their rebrand? And then there's the inherent contradiction. Is a logo important, if not why are you changing it, if it is, why are you throwing out the current valuable logo, or are you implicitly accepting you somehow failed an…

Why do people change their haircuts or buy new outfits? Part of branding is fashion. What is current fashion looks outdated and old and, well, out-of-fashion after a few years. So what you gain is that you continue to look modern and current and up-to-date, rather than looking old and fuddy-duddy and out-of-touch. > Is a logo important, if not why are you changing it Because it's important to keep it looking good, pa…

Why is 'old fashioned' bad?

Further, why should a logo even be fashionable? Sure if I get this week's fashionable hair cut it'll be out of fashion next week. So why get the fashionable haircut to start with.

To extend this further, presumably tech companies want to communicate that they are ahead of everyone else. If so why are they following the fashion. If you change your logo to be fashionable today, your communicating that you're a follower, not a leader.

All companies make grand statements about what logos are supposed to do and represent, but then they change the logo, which you can't really infer anything good from if you take those statements at face value.

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

#154

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I'm talking about these. You serious? https://imgur.com/NyhbDFC We truly are lost.

Yes exactly. They look like they're for grandma and will go with her pearls. And a Rolls-Royce. I don't see what's so "lost" about that. It's certainly not the type of luxury vibe that seems to speak to anything desirable today . The logos look like something out of a museum.

Today the height of status is the new iphone and a gucci shirt. How far we have fallen.

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

#155
Naivete back in the 20th.

Before: let's commission a designer to make a cool logo / let's make a cool logo.

Now: market research data indicates that 90% of sales went to people who used this font style in their logo so let's commission a designer to make us a logo that looks like everyone else's [1]

[1] with no consideration of the fact that 99% of sellers use that font type in their logo and 85% sales went to market leader who definitely used that font type in their logo, to say nothing of the fact that the logo probably didn't secure the conversion in any cases

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

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I don’t question the motivation to be welcoming, but a good motivation doesn’t make a good design. The result is denuded and unmoored. It’s as soulless here in Boston as it would be if the aesthetic infected cultural institutions in Tokyo or Addis Ababa. I bet the people in charge meant well, they just did a bad job.

Beauty and soulfulness are very subjective, but I think the way to judge this design is by how successful it was at helping perceptions of inclusivity. I'm not sure if this particular institution publishes data about visitor demographics but I'm sure they have an internal understanding of the value of this change.

Yeah, if they were very well-managed that have metrics not only for success but also for potential loss. And then an honest qualitative evaluation to see changes—good and bad—in the things that are hard to measure but nonetheless important.

I’ve seen very few firms of any sort do that well.

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

#157
I wrote an extensive article about this: https://www.velvetshark.com/why-do-brands-change-their-logos...

Since its publication it even got featured in a Spanish textbook, and I get tons of traffic to it all the time. The topic seems very much valid for the last few years, with no sign of change.

The main reason seems to be to look good (or even readable) on mobile, but it seems that it's more of a bandwagon than a proven good strategy.

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

#158

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Yes exactly. They look like they're for grandma and will go with her pearls. And a Rolls-Royce. I don't see what's so "lost" about that. It's certainly not the type of luxury vibe that seems to speak to anything desirable today . The logos look like something out of a museum.

Today the height of status is the new iphone and a gucci shirt. How far we have fallen.

How is that any different than a new Rolex and a Brooks Brothers shirt?

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

(And at least an iPhone does a lot more than a Rolex, and is a heckuva lot cheaper too. So I see this as a major improvement, actually.)

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

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Why do people change their haircuts or buy new outfits? Part of branding is fashion. What is current fashion looks outdated and old and, well, out-of-fashion after a few years. So what you gain is that you continue to look modern and current and up-to-date, rather than looking old and fuddy-duddy and out-of-touch. > Is a logo important, if not why are you changing it Because it's important to keep it looking good, pa…

Why is 'old fashioned' bad? Further, why should a logo even be fashionable? Sure if I get this week's fashionable hair cut it'll be out of fashion next week. So why get the fashionable haircut to start with. To extend this further, presumably tech companies want to communicate that they are ahead of everyone else. If so why are they following the fashion. If you change your logo to be fashionable today, your communic…

> Why is 'old fashioned' bad?

Why do people fall in love? It's just human psychology.

> Further, why should a logo even be fashionable?

Because it's aesthetic, and aesthetics follow fashion. Again, it's just human psychology. It's what people like.

> Sure if I get this week's fashionable hair cut it'll be out of fashion next week.

The fashions we're talking about last for years, not days. Think 70's hairstyles vs. 80's hairstyles. You'd keep your hairstyle for many years, same as a logo lasts for many years.

> So why get the fashionable haircut to start with.

So you look good and have aesthetic appeal. So people want to date you, and in the business analogy, people want to buy your products.

> To extend this further, presumably tech companies want to communicate that they are ahead of everyone else.

No, they want to communicate that they're up-to-date and the right solution for you.

> If so why are they following the fashion.

Because that shows they're up-to-date.

> If you change your logo to be fashionable today, your communicating that you're a follower, not a leader.

Who said anything about being a leader? Yes, of course you want to follow the fashion. That shows you're up-to-date. The question isn't about being a follower vs. a leader, the question is about being up-to-date vs. being out-of-date. Being out-of-date is a bad look for any company. You want to be up-to-date.

> All companies make grand statements about what logos are supposed to do and represent, but then they change the logo, which you can't really infer anything good from if you take those statements at face value.

Sometimes the new logo is a new way of representing the "grand statements" but simply updated for the current fashion, reflected in the current design language. So you absolutely can infer that they're staying true to their values.

On the other hand, sometimes company values and priorities and "grand statements" change, because the older ones aren't right anymore. In which case a new logo can reflect those changes too.

In both cases, what you can infer is going to be valuable if they did a good job with the logo.

Hope this all makes sense.

Re: Why do everyone's logo fonts look the same? (2020)

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Today the height of status is the new iphone and a gucci shirt. How far we have fallen.

How is that any different than a new Rolex and a Brooks Brothers shirt? The more things change, the more they stay the same. (And at least an iPhone does a lot more than a Rolex, and is a heckuva lot cheaper too. So I see this as a major improvement, actually.)

>How is that any different than a new Rolex and a Brooks Brothers shirt?

Also nevau rich shit

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