My local setup - please critique as you like. For NAS, I am running Windows Server 2022 (I have a rational reason for this). It hosts many things. * IIS, for my local browser start pages, I configure with "new tab redirect" plugins * JellyFin - Basically a personal Netflix for all my ripped media * DokuWiki, thumbdrive version - for documenting house stuff * Twonky - Because it's the least-bad DLNA solution I've used…
A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
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Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#32> a one-time payment for an external hard drive may be a more economical alternative over time. If you care about your data, you are playing with fire. Drives do not store data forever. Data must be read and rewritten occasionally to maintain it, from old media past its lifespan to new media. Good storage software, with the ability to write your data with either mirroring or striping of some sort is able to routinely…
I have a cron job running snapraid scrub. And smart demon with email alert. Once I had to quickly buy a HDD (next day Amazon) because it was dying. Big appeal of cloud storage is that the data won’t go up in smoke if there’s a fire. But everything else you can do if you’re patient enough.
Unless it’s OVH…
Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#33I run a 48 TB ZFS pool (Z2; 24TB usable), and an offsite, offline 48 TB ZFS pool (mirror). My primary server is Proxmox, where I have 8 unprivileged VMs with Docker nested inside (since ZFS 2.2.0, Docker on unprivileged ZFS works now without detours). My backup is ZFS-send plus Borgmatic as a fallback, until I trust the ZFS-send approach that I just added (I usually have "migration phases" for new features that may l…
Then I got two sick parents and a divorce on my hands.
Then I realised exactly how much time, energy, money and headspace managing all this crap really took out of my life because I had to spend it on other stuff instead not out of choice but necessity. One of the absolute killers for all of this wasn't really the cost and complexity but the time to curate my data and deal with it is incredibly high if you have a lot of it. One of the worst sub-parts was the question from the kids: I want this music and then going to get it and deal with it and then distribute it to everyone. This would take hours a month to manage.
I came out of the other side of this somewhat unscathed thankfully and with a much larger pile of cash than I thought I was going to.
So a year long project took place. I combed through several TB of data, from myself and my parents and did a huge minimisation effort. I deleted all the fuzzy ass photos, pictures of stuff no one cared about, all the films I'd already watched, deleted all the crap music, deleted scanned paperwork dating back to 1989 I'd never need, everything. I also did a physical clean out at that point. Then I scanned all the family photos as a backup.
End game was everything everyone in my family ever did, or found value in, could be crammed in 200Gb of iCloud with 40Gb left over. Apple got to handle the music too. So that's how it rolls. I have no infrastructure other than a laptop, router and offline backup drive now, no huge energy dependency (my energy usage is stupid low) and my domain sits on AWS/CloudFront and Apple iCloud+.
There's a dependency in one form or another so I'll pick the one that makes my life easier. Feeling liberated for me is not having the weight of this on my shoulders personally and not leaving that weight on my kids shoulders one day to pick through and deal with. I've been through too many dead people's stuff to want to do that to someone else now.
If I want to learn something, I'll do a formal higher education thing, because I have the time to do it now!
Edit: notably there was an advantage here at two points. Firstly my internet connection was down for 2 days when someone cut the cable. I did not lose any services because I could 4G tether. And secondly I moved house and had several months of hell trying to get an internet connection sorted out. Again, 4G was fine. I was pulling 100 gig a month over that 4G working from home and there was no noticeable material difference for me.
Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#34I’m sure it’s nice to feel in control of your stuff, but I’d rather do something with my family, read a good book or go for a walk instead of having more of the same shite I put up with all day at work.
Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#35Ok. So now your house is on fire. How do you retrieve your datas from the melted local NAS ? Or a buglar come and empties it. Don't get me wrong, I'm full "move away from the cloud" in the "proprietary cloud" way. But getting some drive space on a different location is important if you care about your datas. Could be in a relative's or friend's place (so almost no per month cost) or on a cloud drive (I personnaly use…
I used hetzner before but the problem was I needed about 1.5TB and their only options in that range are 1 and 5TB. The 5TB option was a bit too wasteful.
Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#36Ok. So now your house is on fire. How do you retrieve your datas from the melted local NAS ? Or a buglar come and empties it. Don't get me wrong, I'm full "move away from the cloud" in the "proprietary cloud" way. But getting some drive space on a different location is important if you care about your datas. Could be in a relative's or friend's place (so almost no per month cost) or on a cloud drive (I personnaly use…
See, each has issues.
Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
That all sounds great but what we desperately need is instructions on how to do things like this for the less technical, and easy maintenance… I think those are the limiting factors for wide spread adoption
I agree. We need more and better instructions and easier-to-setup tools - all of this got a big boost with docker (compose). On the other hand, we need to pair the less-technical with the power-users and help each other. I am responsible for about 8-10 people. This frees them from cloud providers and helps me to built better and more robust solutions.
I run a synology nas with docker compose for some services and it works well. With a young family though when something does go wrong it can throw out a few days of my (very little) spare time.
Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#38I run a 48 TB ZFS pool (Z2; 24TB usable), and an offsite, offline 48 TB ZFS pool (mirror). My primary server is Proxmox, where I have 8 unprivileged VMs with Docker nested inside (since ZFS 2.2.0, Docker on unprivileged ZFS works now without detours). My backup is ZFS-send plus Borgmatic as a fallback, until I trust the ZFS-send approach that I just added (I usually have "migration phases" for new features that may l…
Re: A case for moving away from the cloud and embracing local storage solutions
#39I run a 48 TB ZFS pool (Z2; 24TB usable), and an offsite, offline 48 TB ZFS pool (mirror). My primary server is Proxmox, where I have 8 unprivileged VMs with Docker nested inside (since ZFS 2.2.0, Docker on unprivileged ZFS works now without detours). My backup is ZFS-send plus Borgmatic as a fallback, until I trust the ZFS-send approach that I just added (I usually have "migration phases" for new features that may l…
Could you elaborate on what you mean by off-site and offline mirror? How do you go about maintaining that?