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U.S. busts Tor drug market, arrests eight
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#82Web page is dead. Was this silk road? I've been meaning to scrape prices from there as a pet economics project.
Looks like this is a working link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/17/net-us-usa-drugs-i... The new url has "net-" in it.
It doesn't appear that I can edit the URL anymore :(
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#83When I saw the title, I immediately assumed it was Silk Road. That would have surprised me, as the operators have no part in the actual business, and all trades are conducted with bitcoins. If Silk Road went down, that would be news, as they really embrace strong crypto and opsec.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Costing society probably $100K/yr/each to imprison them.
Nope. It costs close to $30K/year to imprison somebody in the US. So make that $250K/year to imprison this sorry bunch.
Don't forget the opportunity losses. These people could have contributed to society and the economy further.
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#86Web page is dead. Was this silk road? I've been meaning to scrape prices from there as a pet economics project.
No, the project was called The Farmer's Market. While it operated on Tor, they accepted payments over PayPal which completely breaks the anonymity chain. Silk Road is still operational and uses other security mechanisms (in addition to a decentralized, digital anonymous currency) to further anonymize transactions, running all payments through a tumbler.
Someone should write up a tour guide to the deep dark web.
I doubly wish I was indexing silkroad's prices, so we could see the price impact this event has.
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#87That's a shame. These guys' lives are going to be seriously messed up by this, and from the drug list, it looks like they were selling fairly ethical stuff; according to the article, they sold "LSD, ecstasy, fentanyl, mescaline ketamine, DMT and high-end marijuana".
Ecstasy is horribly nasty stuff. People rarely OD, but it can vary quickly do significant and permanent brain damage with heavy use. The real problem is when the symptoms show up they are basically permanent. Honestly, prolonged heroin use is significantly less harmful, the only good thing about ecstasy is the unpleasant side effects and fairly long high limit how much people take.
This right here is bullshit. long term MDMA use does not cause brain damage and is certainly not worse than long term heroin use.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
State-protected real drug cartels and prohibition rackets... can you expand? These drugs aren't just illegal here, are similar drug cartels running countries around the world?
They don't "run countries," but there is massive corruption. Prohibition is basically a price-fixing scheme, and makes illegal drugs obscenely profitable. Years ago I knew a friend who got into it, and he made over $20,000 in one weekend by simply driving a car across the border once. (He ended up getting in trouble unfortunately, though he's much better now and no longer involved.) If a person is willing to put up w…
So you think that all countries decided that xyz drugs could be "banned" which would then open up a huge opportunity to sell them illegally? And countries around the world decided this independently?
What about the theory that these countries actually believed that banning these substances could increase the health of the country? For example, the christian women and Henry Ford were against alcohol and actually weren't corrupt bootleggers trying to make money by selling moonshine.
I'm not saying corruption isn't there, of course there's corruption - police are people too. There is corruption. It doesn't make everyone corrupt and it doesn't mean the _reason_ drugs are illegal is because of corruption. That's silly.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously. Why don't you just wake up and get a grip. The majority of the countries on this planet have similar drug policies to the US. They aren't all corrupt and in many countries the policies are quite effective. So to rant on like a crazy person about corruption and conspiracies just makes you sound unstable. There are many practical areas that the US can focus on like better border controls rather than opening…
Which countries have policies like the U.S. that are quite effective? I only know of Singapore, where drugs carry a death penalty, and that's far less ethical than any kind of drug trafficking. Also: I find it kind of amazing that there are still people naive enough to call me a paranoid conspiracy nut or "unstable" for suggesting that... gasp... there might be corruption in the world. A paranoid conspiracy nut is so…
Of course corruption exists, no one claimed different. The blanket statements are what make you seem like a crazy. Such as "Who do you think the DEA is enforcing for?". Come on, really?
Corruption was not the reason drugs became illegal and it's not the reason drugs are still illegal.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assuming they found them in the mail during transit using xray or some other method since they were in canada, shipping to US goes through customs which has special rules allowing that, then they can look at who is receiving the package and then they get them to squeal on who the dealer was.
I don't think they x-ray every single package, that's just impossible, and who would look at all the x-rays. So even if they do it, 1) your chances of getting caught are extremely low 2) i don't think you're liable for receiving a package (though you may be for keeping and not reporting it).
Yea it's certainly a complicated situation for both you and the police to figure out. The problem is I don't think I'd trust them to not try to strong arm you into confessing and saying who it was, assuming you did order them even if they couldn't prove it.