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Re: Show HN: Audio plugin for circuit-bent MP3 compression sounds

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I’m not confusing those; by popular I simply meant… well, popular. It was what everyone used because it’s what there was. My point was that vinyl, as well as being (1) pleasingly retro and (2) physical rather than existing in the cloud somewhere, also has (3) fundamentally desirable traits as an audio format — ‘analogue warmth’, etc. Bad lossy digital compression has (1) but not (2) or (3). You’re right about vinyl’s…

I always thought an interesting format would have been the plastic disc with a physical track similar to vinyl, but read optically so that it could be a disc that was compact like that other digital format. The loss in fidelity would naturally cause the format to have a charm of its own. Sort of like those old films with an optical audio track that have a distinctive sound.

Optical turntables exist.

Re: Show HN: Audio plugin for circuit-bent MP3 compression sounds

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I love the fact that you're shipping a linux version of this. Thank you, really! I do not understand why developers who make VST3 plugins explicitly choose not to ship linux builds by choice.

Seconded. Unfortunately Linux support is relatively rare in VST land. Also I wish CLAP would get more traction as a plugin format.

As someone producing in linux land I wish CLAP was more widespread as well

Re: Show HN: Audio plugin for circuit-bent MP3 compression sounds

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought an interesting format would have been the plastic disc with a physical track similar to vinyl, but read optically so that it could be a disc that was compact like that other digital format. The loss in fidelity would naturally cause the format to have a charm of its own. Sort of like those old films with an optical audio track that have a distinctive sound.

Optical turntables exist.

not compact as a disc. that's just someone retrofitting an optical reader for existing vinyl. that's not even close to what i'm suggesting

Re: Show HN: Audio plugin for circuit-bent MP3 compression sounds

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not confusing those; by popular I simply meant… well, popular. It was what everyone used because it’s what there was. My point was that vinyl, as well as being (1) pleasingly retro and (2) physical rather than existing in the cloud somewhere, also has (3) fundamentally desirable traits as an audio format — ‘analogue warmth’, etc. Bad lossy digital compression has (1) but not (2) or (3). You’re right about vinyl’s…

I always thought an interesting format would have been the plastic disc with a physical track similar to vinyl, but read optically so that it could be a disc that was compact like that other digital format. The loss in fidelity would naturally cause the format to have a charm of its own. Sort of like those old films with an optical audio track that have a distinctive sound.

Laserdisc is analog optical, but not so compact.

Re: Show HN: Audio plugin for circuit-bent MP3 compression sounds

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post #35

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Quoting Brian Eno: "Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out of control, of a medium pushing to its limits and breaking…

I remember first seeing that quote on a Kotaku article, where they had unfortunately misinterpreted "the crap sound of 8-bit" as referring to retro videogame music made on 8-bit CPUs, rather than (what he was actually referring to) 8-bit audio[0]. [0] i.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_bit_depth

Funnily enough, to get the "crap sound of 8-bit" you usually needed a 16-bit computer (the Amiga). But that's nothing compared to the "crap sound of 1-bit", i.e. playing sampled sound using the PC speaker. I still remember thinking "how is this even possible?!" when I first heard it...

Re: Show HN: Audio plugin for circuit-bent MP3 compression sounds

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Hey, I'm a long-time music producer and I'm dying to get into this exact kind of work - writing plugins and eventually synthesizers from scratch. I'm curious what your path was to get to the point where you can write an audio plug-in from scratch - I noticed you're using the JUCE framework, and that's about as far as I got and I never really escaped tutorial hell.

Since it hasn't been mentioned already, check out The Audio Programmer on YouTube [1] and Discord [2].

The JUCE forum [3] is also incredible useful and friendly place for "noobs", I'm always happy to see how non-toxic it stays 99.9999% of the time.

That said, you'll need something above "noob" C++ knowledge, as that community isn't really so into helping people with C++ basics, but if you have questions about the framework they're always happy to help. The TAP Discord has a channel that's probably a better place to ask audio plugin related C++ questions.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/c/TheAudioProgrammer [2] https://discord.gg/fdV4npvnmK [3] https://forum.juce.com

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