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I have 404,772 users. Now what?

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Re: I have 404,772 users. Now what?

#91
I was about to suggest the "Bands in Town" API, linking to upcoming concerts based on the "influences" section on each page, but it looks like they're about to discontinue it.

In that vein though, maybe let users link to recordings they have available on Amazon? use your affiliate ID and then pass on half of the revenue to each user if they reach a certain threshold?

Sadly, I think getting acquired (perhaps Guitar Center?) may get you more money than years of counting the pennies ever will.

Re: I have 404,772 users. Now what?

#92
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I'm sorry, but $2,500 a month to run this site just seems high...I'm not sure what technology pud used to create the site, but it'd be interesting to know. I'd love to see my own sites get this much traffic, but damned if I could really afford to carry the success for too many months. This is where I really think the whole Rails (not saying he used rails...just using it as an example) argument of cheaper development…

Hosting on Amazon. I am pretty sure he could run the site from two or three USD 100/month servers easily, even though its written in ColdFusion.

Re: I have 404,772 users. Now what?

#93
Would it be too cheesy or abusive to have showdowns? Puppyshowdown.com came up yesterday or the day before and had a good interface. What if you had musicians pick one or two of their songs to be used in head to head, this or that, contests. You could have a showdown each month then release a compilation album using the winning tracks. Revenue from the album would be shared with the musicians, you could get a small cut, and it would be a cool way for people to discover new music that has been filtered by their peers. This won't make a ton of money but it could be one little piece of the puzzle down the road.

There was a piece on NPR a few weeks ago about a classical music company that is doing very well releasing targeted albums on iTunes. They find out what people are searching for then compile their albums and choose relevant keyworded album titles. You could use your giant musician base to pump out indie albums to iTunes and other digital music catalogs. The albums could also be crowdsorted. You research and pick an album topic and title then set up a contest, the users crowdsort relevant tracks, you compile and release the digital album.

I don't know how you want to interact with other platforms but you could push updates to FB and the like "I just voted for X to be included on the upcoming album Y via Fandalism"

You could also make an app out of this functionality and people could listen to tracks and vote head to head or even just thumbs up or thumbs down pandora style. Everyone who was listening and voting would be sorting music for you.

I like to find new music but it takes a ton of effort to sort through totally unknown artists. Make it social and fun and empower sorters to contribute to a project (the albums).

"Help build the next great indie album @Fandalism"

Sorry for rambling but you just went from a music sharing site to an independent music label in 5 minutes.

Re: I have 404,772 users. Now what?

#94
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I love the idea of American Idol for guitarists/drummers/etc. I really could find the best musicians in the world. That would be fun. From a business perspective, if I wanted to make money doing that, I could imagine sponsors like guitar companies paying. Fender (maker of the famous Stratocaster guitar, for you non musicians) just filed IPO paperwork and had something like $700M in sales last year.

I'm all for finding the "best musicians in the world", but what really shits me about Idol and similar shows is that they find technically brilliant singers, but they can't write a song if their life depended on it. The same with many brilliant musicians I know - they have the technical chops, but have no basic idea how to structure a song other than chorus-verse or maybe AABA. There's got to be a market for musician…

Look, watch that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hHc7TZjyY

That beauty transformed into this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY-vXcmpZIw

Please, don't blame the musicians.

Re: I have 404,772 users. Now what?

#95
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What about a voluntary small-fee subscription, something like $3/mo to remove ads and support the community. Works for Instapaper, and even for writers (eg., shawnblanc.net). Often, asking users you've treated well to chip in works fantastically.

I think this is the best idea so far. It's clear that the ethos of the site is about musicians supporting and learning from each other. At this scale, voluntary contributions would easily make the thing self-sustaining, and it would help keep the focus on the community.

Re: I have 404,772 users. Now what?

#96
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Quite the rant? Really? Could've sworn I said I'm not sure what technology pud used to create the site, but it'd be interesting to know , and not saying he used rails...just using it as an example . Regardless, thanks for the builtwith.com tip. I haven't seen that before. It's a little odd though...if I'm reading it right, it says he's running IIS, but using java and cold fusion?

Fandalism runs on Railo, which is an open source ColdFusion interpreter built on Java. http://www.getrailo.org/

Gotcha. Thank you.

Re: I have 404,772 users. Now what?

#99
Here's an idea that I'd like you to try first. Pay what you want subscriptions. Offer a subscription service that is completely voluntary. Do not label it a donation system. It is simply a subscription service. People will pay an amount of their own choosing to support the site. Offer monthly and yearly subscription packages. See what happens. I bet you will get a significant conversion rate to paid members, all whom enjoy and want to continue using your service.
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