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The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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post #4

The main issue with Fediverse is the vast majority of people don't know what it is. And I would suspect that most readers of Hacker News only know about Mastodon. The Fediverse needs the same kind of evangelical missionaries that made the free software movement such a big deal.

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Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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post #4

The main issue with Fediverse is the vast majority of people don't know what it is. And I would suspect that most readers of Hacker News only know about Mastodon. The Fediverse needs the same kind of evangelical missionaries that made the free software movement such a big deal.

I don't really want everyone to come, just the people who would have shown up in the early days of the internet when it was hard. The clout chasers and tabloid purveyors can stay right where they are.

Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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The Fediverse is something that we already tried in many different fashions and it was never mass-adopted because it doesn't have the features that people want.

It's the API equivalent of people asking for iPhones while nerds keep on throwing Raspberry Pis at them and pretend that they're the same thing if you squint hard enough.

It is not the same, it will never be the same, you will never get the masses to adopt it, so if you want to do the hobbyist thing go ahead. Just don't be upset when nobody gives a crap about your federated platform and you're forever 5 years from being adopted by the masses regardless of the date.

Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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post #22

My opinion is that it's hard to make the Fediverse work content-wise. The Big Techs have very expensive systems to do content moderation. I (kind of) trust Instagram, or X, or whatever to prevent my daughter from seeing gore or weird porn stuff. It's hard to trust these other platforms. But I'll change my mind if good arguments come up :)

Have you actually used federated social media? In my experience, it's more heavily moderated than any of the big centralized platforms. Like, to the point where one of the major reasons I still use the big centralized platforms is to get away from overbearing Fediverse moderation practices. None of this should be surprising when you consider that each of the little servers which make up the Fediverse are themselves tight-knit curated communities which selectively federate with other tight-knit curated communities. I prefer that my kids participate in the intentionally crafted spaces of the Fediverse over the three major algorithmically disorganized marketing machines any day of the week.

Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

#35
post #12

How about not naming it the "Fediverse" .. sounds like some .gov thing nobody wants to be part of unless they have to pay taxes or register a car.

“Twitter” and “tweeting” also sounded stupid in 2007.

God, remember how stupid the name 'tumblr' was back then?

Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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post #12

How about not naming it the "Fediverse" .. sounds like some .gov thing nobody wants to be part of unless they have to pay taxes or register a car.

“Twitter” and “tweeting” also sounded stupid in 2007.

How is this relevant to avoiding boring/formal names? I missed something here.

Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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post #22

My opinion is that it's hard to make the Fediverse work content-wise. The Big Techs have very expensive systems to do content moderation. I (kind of) trust Instagram, or X, or whatever to prevent my daughter from seeing gore or weird porn stuff. It's hard to trust these other platforms. But I'll change my mind if good arguments come up :)

as someone who has actively gone out looking for weird porn on the fediverse, I struggled

Just can't be done /s aha

Re: The Fediverse is an opportunity learned societies can't ignore

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post #4

The main issue with Fediverse is the vast majority of people don't know what it is. And I would suspect that most readers of Hacker News only know about Mastodon. The Fediverse needs the same kind of evangelical missionaries that made the free software movement such a big deal.

> The Fediverse needs the same kind of evangelical missionaries Weirdly enough this is likely to be Meta with Threads. Once it adds ActivityPub integration we should start to see a lot of cross-pollination with Mastodon users.

Only to the extent that different instances choose to federate with Threads, of course.
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