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Every time you post...with a brand new account? You don't even have any submissions, yet.
Some folks cycle throwaways over time instead of allowing a consistent identity to be built. The guidelines request nicely against doing so but some always do anyways of course.
I mainly stopped using phone calls years ago, and I hope more people also do. I ported my main number to voip.ms and created a couple others to use for pseudonymous accounts. The service is cheap at about $1/month per number, but it is a little technical to configure and is sometimes spotty. My phone number has sometimes been unregistered/out of service for long periods which has been a bonus. Nobody who really knows…
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In 2023, if you're using a major commercial provider, and the caller ID is a US-originating number you're more likely to see accurate Caller ID than not. STIR/SHAKEN has been widely adopted, and networks now have permission to drop calls providing inaccurate digital signature. Even as of last year caller ID accuracy was bad.
It is still ridiculously easy to spoof a number. I'm on Verizon with the enhanced caller ID, and it happens consistently on a weekly basis.
Stir shaken doesn't prevent spoofing but it lets terminating carriers validate that the number is legit before sending the call to their customer.
My old team implemented stir shaken for one of the large voip carriers.
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Same here but every time I post that on this site I get replies about how they have to answer the phone because their kid could have fallen down a well and their wife could be in a coma and the police would be trying to contact them and if they don’t jump to answer the phone every time it rings their entire family could be murdered. So IDK. It seems to be a problem, I just don’t have enough of a life for it to be for…
You can cut through a surprising amount of spam by just reading the voicemail after letting an unknown number ring. If they didn't bother to leave one it was either not at all important or the vast majority of spam calls. If they did leave a voicemail you can generally tell whether it seems even remotely legitimate and, if it does, call back at the number. E.g. if you have a kid and the school calls they will leave s…
If you're deliberately making yourself hard to contact this way, a lot of people will just stop calling you.
I commend the effort, but getting a human to answer a support hotline call in order to report a spammer number is so comically difficult and ineffective that I can't see a significant amount of people participating. Why doesn't my carrier have an automated system allowing them to communicate with the originating carrier, triggered by the "report spam" button in my telephone OS?
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Some folks cycle throwaways over time instead of allowing a consistent identity to be built. The guidelines request nicely against doing so but some always do anyways of course.
That's because HN prioritizes aesthetics over privacy and won't allow you to delete your account and all its comments.
As one who'd also like to see the ability to fully delete your HN account for privacy reasons I still think summarizing the alternative reasons as only aesthetics sells the counterarguments a bit short...
... but overall I'm getting myself and the whole conversation extremely off topic here. Probably best to discuss this in a thread about privacy on HN instead of one on robocallers.
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You can cut through a surprising amount of spam by just reading the voicemail after letting an unknown number ring. If they didn't bother to leave one it was either not at all important or the vast majority of spam calls. If they did leave a voicemail you can generally tell whether it seems even remotely legitimate and, if it does, call back at the number. E.g. if you have a kid and the school calls they will leave s…
This might be a cultural thing, but at least in Australia nobody under the age of 60 would ever leave a voicemail. If you're deliberately making yourself hard to contact this way, a lot of people will just stop calling you.
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most of the time, STOP, UNSUBSCRIBE (or clicking any link) marks the phone number or email as hot, and gets sold for more money in the market.
I wanted to note that for email this generally isn’t the case. Really spammy spam generally is easy to catch, I don’t think I’ve seen any in over a year. Any legitimate business generally adheres to unsubscribe requests. So if you unsubscribe from stuff hitting your mailbox generally you’ll stop getting it. My mailbox pretty much only gets signal to it, almost zero noise.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSdZyRvDd0ES...
this is the log of email spam I am getting since about few years now. The sheet doesn't list any email link, but each one of that link is unique, the soam machine sends me 10x spam if I accidentally click it.
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You can cut through a surprising amount of spam by just reading the voicemail after letting an unknown number ring. If they didn't bother to leave one it was either not at all important or the vast majority of spam calls. If they did leave a voicemail you can generally tell whether it seems even remotely legitimate and, if it does, call back at the number. E.g. if you have a kid and the school calls they will leave s…
This might be a cultural thing, but at least in Australia nobody under the age of 60 would ever leave a voicemail. If you're deliberately making yourself hard to contact this way, a lot of people will just stop calling you.
If you mean for people you have relations with (friends/family/coworkers) most here gave up memorizing numbers a long time ago and none of those would show as an unknown number. This is common enough here in the US that the iPhone has a built in feature to only ring for known contacts and for unknowns only notify voicemails.
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This might be a cultural thing, but at least in Australia nobody under the age of 60 would ever leave a voicemail. If you're deliberately making yourself hard to contact this way, a lot of people will just stop calling you.
This is genuinely pretty shocking to me. Would e.g. the person calling from the school about your kid getting hurt during recess just hang up and assume you'll call back immediately during the workday on the basis you had a missed call? If you mean for people you have relations with (friends/family/coworkers) most here gave up memorizing numbers a long time ago and none of those would show as an unknown number. This…
(Geo context: Poland, EU)