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Re: UniFi Express

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Post by blantonl »

tjoff wrote: post #167
pugworthy wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's $149. I think you're expecting more from it than what your more advanced home setup needs. Mind you it talks a big talk for that price.

> UniFi Express supports up to 5 connected UniFi Network devices, including other UniFi Express units, switches, and WiFi access points. What does that even mean? That it bundles a controller that is not "capable" of handling more than 5 unifi devices? Who comes up with shit like that? Lets punish people that get too dependent on us and tries to buy too many devices. Let's squeeze some more out of them and risk them…

Because someone will invariably buy this thing and then hang 15 access points off of it, and it won't be able to manage given build of materials this device has.

And then they'll be pissed off because it doesn't "do" what they want it to.

This thing is designed for what 95% of household's need. A router and one or two WAPs. That's really it.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by srj »

spacebacon wrote: post #220
cced wrote: post #61

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Why and how do you block application layer stuff like quic?

When UDM shows you QUIC eats up the majority of your bandwidth you may decide to click to add a rule to block it. You may see a large reduction in overall daily bandwidth as a result. If you watch YouTube you are using QUIC. Certain QUIC vulnerabilities are a 3 or 4 packet compromise.

Youtube will fall back to TCP. If the bandwidth utilization actually did drop it's probably because the stream quality throttled down.

What do you mean by "QUIC vulnerabilities are a 3 or 4 packet compromise"?

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by spacebacon »

srj wrote: post #252
spacebacon wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When UDM shows you QUIC eats up the majority of your bandwidth you may decide to click to add a rule to block it. You may see a large reduction in overall daily bandwidth as a result. If you watch YouTube you are using QUIC. Certain QUIC vulnerabilities are a 3 or 4 packet compromise.

Youtube will fall back to TCP. If the bandwidth utilization actually did drop it's probably because the stream quality throttled down. What do you mean by "QUIC vulnerabilities are a 3 or 4 packet compromise"?

CVE-2023-39322 for example

QUIC connections do not set an upper bound on the amount of data buffered when reading post-handshake messages, allowing a malicious QUIC connection to cause unbounded memory growth.

I like Google Dart and other Google products but I see too many potential issues with QUIC. From my personal experience it has behaved suspiciously on my network.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by mapmap »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #248
izacus wrote: post #198

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2 floor house + Outside is immediately 3 APs. You'll also need at least one PoE switch to power them. That's 4 devices already, without adding anything else like security cameras or similar.

We live in a 3 floor 1800 sq.ft. house, with have a garage that is 300 ft away. My single UAP-AC-LR manages to cover this quite nicely, only the far corner of the garage has poor connection, out in the garden it's excellent. Unless all the walls in your house are heavily reinforced concrete, I don't see how you need that many APs.

Are you using 2.4 or 5ghz? 2.4 will blast through walls, to an extent, where 5ghz will struggle. I’ve seen situations where the 2.4 band is completely saturated by neighbors and the solution was that every other room needs its own 5ghz puddle to achieve top speeds.

This kind of setup is easily achievable with UniFI POE gear, but will hit the 5 device limit of this router. The original USG didn’t have this limit.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by midasuni »

smcleod wrote: post #174
poisonborz wrote: post #173

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And do they cost the same? I also wouldn't call it nothing, 2.5g switches have much higher consumption and get hotter, let alone 10g.

I’ve got 2.5G switches at home and they easily run off 12V 0.8A power adapters (8 port 2.5G 1x 10g)

Switching packets in hardware is trivial (assuming you have a chip). If you want to process them in software you need something more beefy.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by starky »

chunkyks wrote: post #44
stbenjam wrote: post #10

Another confused product from UniFi. Is it targeting home users or businesses? It looks like businesses from their web page yet feels very much like a better fit for home. It only runs UniFi Network, so you have to buy more things, that also run UniFi Network, to get into any of their other products like Protect. I like their stuff but lately a lot of their stuff feels just confused to me, like they don't know what t…

I bought into their unifi ecosystem years ago. Separate devices, prosumer pricing, features and quality, single pane of glass. ... And I haven't upgraded anything since. Their new products are totally undirected, they aren't making items that are obvious and needed. Their software is falling behind and they just don't care. Case in point: the usg pro 4 is years old but they havent released an updated affordable just-…

I just upgraded my networking and wifi and had the intention of going with unifi equipment rather than the consumer grade stuff. I was shocked to see that they don't have 2.5GbE or Wifi 6E options for their equipment.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by midasuni »

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #134
edmundsauto wrote: post #117

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I've seen this term used a lot lately, what does it mean? > single pane of glass style interface

It just means a unified (sorry) UI that handles everything, instead of having say one system/UI for routing, another for LAN management, another for firewall, etc etc where nothing necessarily knows about the others.

Typically means Vendor lock-in. Certainly every company I talk to, from arista to unifi, are keen on it, for obvious reasons.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by midasuni »

xattt wrote: post #12

I am lucky enough to have FTTH service where the provider furnishes me with an SFP stick with simple DHCP (no PPPoE). Beyond UniFi, Microtik, and rolling your own, there’s very little option in consumer routers.

You need a router that takes a standard sfp and can support a dhcp client? That’s basically any router!

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by bdavbdav »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #248
izacus wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 floor house + Outside is immediately 3 APs. You'll also need at least one PoE switch to power them. That's 4 devices already, without adding anything else like security cameras or similar.

We live in a 3 floor 1800 sq.ft. house, with have a garage that is 300 ft away. My single UAP-AC-LR manages to cover this quite nicely, only the far corner of the garage has poor connection, out in the garden it's excellent. Unless all the walls in your house are heavily reinforced concrete, I don't see how you need that many APs.

What is your house built of? In the UK, we’ve got houses with brick walls everywhere - it’s killer for signal.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by novok »

catchnear4321 wrote: post #210
lukeholder wrote: post #203

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Yeah so it’s not the device for you and you buy the another higher model in the line up?

or you buy a different product from a different vendor, due to dissatisfaction with artificial product tiering. isn’t that typically the implicit message being sent by disgruntled customers complaining about a company’s seeming lack of foresight or excess of greed, or both?

The Dream Machine Router which can do way more is only $50 more...
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