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Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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There's something fishy with this company, people report getting charged without asking, however all the positive reviews of said company is from specifically app devs who sold their app to this company![0] [0] https://www.trustpilot.com/review/zipoapps.com?page=2

This company operates in the same waters are Taboola and Outbrain so 'fishy' would be an understatement.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

#52
post #13

In today’s economy, if you don’t pay for your oss apps they might be sold to the highest bidder at some point.

Keep a copy of the APK and block automatic updates. Don't support anything that doesn't work without phoning home. That's what I'd do in today's economy.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

#53

This is unethical. I don't necessarily blame the developer for selling: I understand that some offers are difficult to refuse. But I absolutely do blame him for being dishonest to his users and contributors. No one was told about this. People only found out about the sale by chance, because someone noticed that the Play Store listing details were changed and made a post on Reddit. When confronted on GitHub, the devel…

The devs also think that they’re gonna get to relicense the code.

What a bunch of idiots.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

#54

This is unethical. I don't necessarily blame the developer for selling: I understand that some offers are difficult to refuse. But I absolutely do blame him for being dishonest to his users and contributors. No one was told about this. People only found out about the sale by chance, because someone noticed that the Play Store listing details were changed and made a post on Reddit. When confronted on GitHub, the devel…

So, to be fair, the thing about his displeasure with Android was in response to somebody asking if he would be involved in helping maintain a fork that’s being set up. He said no and gave his Android reasons. Which to me sounds like he’s literally getting out of Android development.

Now, I didn’t read all the way to the bottom of that thread and GitHub, but no one really seem to ask him why he didn’t give notice of to anybody. The comments were either like, no, don’t do it, or we’ve gotta fork this. They weren’t really about how he has handled the issue.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

#56
post #50
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Oh, no. I liked those tools, but I don't let them update since they started having "premium versions". Expecting project maintainers to solely fund the development of open source projects used by millions of people is the leopard that keeps eating our faces.

Simple Mobile makes apps like file managers and image galleries. Just how much work is required to maintain this besides keeping the file access API up to date? Not sure if that's even had any breaking changes on Android in the past several years.

I'm not familiar with these projects, so I'm not sure how much time it would take to just keep them afloat, but I've seen they are popular and beloved apps. Looking at the GitHub activity, they have been actively developed for years, and several releases a year also contain new features. This was more than likely a full-time job for the developer.

It's regrettable that the funding model of these projects did not work out, and that the developer sold these apps without informing users about the change of ownership.

Though it feels like at this point we are bargaining for the amount of free work we are expected to get from this person, while sneering at the prospect of there being a paid version of the app published on Google Play as part of the original funding model that was in place long before the sale.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

#57

This is unethical. I don't necessarily blame the developer for selling: I understand that some offers are difficult to refuse. But I absolutely do blame him for being dishonest to his users and contributors. No one was told about this. People only found out about the sale by chance, because someone noticed that the Play Store listing details were changed and made a post on Reddit. When confronted on GitHub, the devel…

Doesn't the GPL protect third-party contributions in ways that liberal licences do not? I think the author might have trouble re-licensing third-party GPL contributions under a proprietary licence, but IANAL.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

#58
post #57

This is unethical. I don't necessarily blame the developer for selling: I understand that some offers are difficult to refuse. But I absolutely do blame him for being dishonest to his users and contributors. No one was told about this. People only found out about the sale by chance, because someone noticed that the Play Store listing details were changed and made a post on Reddit. When confronted on GitHub, the devel…

Doesn't the GPL protect third-party contributions in ways that liberal licences do not? I think the author might have trouble re-licensing third-party GPL contributions under a proprietary licence, but IANAL.

From what I gather, the author isn't re-licensing the code but is selling their copyright and brand (trademark?) to Zipo, who in turn will probably try to re-license it (without permission from other contributors) or will simply choose to violate the license.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

#59
post #50
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Oh, no. I liked those tools, but I don't let them update since they started having "premium versions". Expecting project maintainers to solely fund the development of open source projects used by millions of people is the leopard that keeps eating our faces.

Simple Mobile makes apps like file managers and image galleries. Just how much work is required to maintain this besides keeping the file access API up to date? Not sure if that's even had any breaking changes on Android in the past several years.

This isn't win32 or posix. You'd be surprised how often Android breaks APIs for no fucking reason. It's a Google product, after all.

Re: Simple Mobile Tools suite to be acquired by Israeli adware company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They "can" because nothing will happen to them. Is anyone really going to sue?

Not to the guy that sold, no. I expect if the new owners try to change the license people will actually care though on the principle of the matter.

Have fun trying to sue an Israeli malware company into compliance. The reason so many malware companies operate out of Israel is because the Israeli government shields them from consequences.
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