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OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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You don't think that's at least a bit of an apples to oranges comparison?

Well, that's why it's phrased as a joke. So they can shrink from and deny any possible conflict.

Personally directed comments aren't typically welcome here. Attack the topic or opinion, not the person.

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I find it interesting that so many people here are quick to defend a person’s right to moonlight on whatever they want, and the right of a person not to have their IP stolen by the company they work for. But when it’s a public figure suddenly we are on the side of the plantation owners.. Good for Sam, I say. Money aside he should be allowed to keep his interests separate. Just because this other company is AI related…

There’s a world of difference between moonlighting and having the company you’re leading buy a product from another one of your ventures.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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post #116

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apocryphal

That is why I said the main point of the comment still stands, both in form and semantics...

In defense of a point I wasn't making, I have to ask if you actually read the article you shared. It describes claims of people saying the Eskimos have 9, 48, 100, or 200 words for snow, and points out these are all in conflict. It then goes on to remar that even if it were true, it's understandable since snow is a huge part of their culture, which reinforces the point that I _was_ making. Hardly a debunking!

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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post #53

This kind of stuff is the reason why Altman was fired. The board lost trust for his honesty from many small things that kept accumulating. Altman is back on condition that there is a investigation.

And yet in multiple interviews he says he is not in it for the money. Saying that you are not in it for the money is becoming like a fashion statement. What’s wrong in saying that you’re in it for both money and passion?

"What I see all over the place is people care about looking good while doing evil..." -- Elon Musk

That is the problem with the modern era, your actions do not matter your words do... Words have become violence, but actual violence is excused.

If you do not say the "correct words" your actions matter not. inversely as long as you say the "correct words" your actions matter not.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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> The orb isn’t a perfect sphere but two halves that come together at an angle that matches the orbit of the Earth Can't tell if this is meaningless, the reporter just failed to convey its actual meaning, or I am too dumb to understand

Has to be one of the first two. Maybe it’s some sort of reference to how the earth itself isn’t actually a perfect sphere?

People seem to love making a big deal out of the earth not being a perfect sphere. In reality, the earth is like 3 tenths of a percent out of round (equatorial bulge is 0.003 of equatorial radius). This works out to about 21km which puts Mount Everest to shame but is really nothing compared to the 6371km mean radius of the earth.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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I'm as skeptical of OpenAI's dealings as anyone, but a $1m investment in a chip startup doesn't sound like he's a material owner. They've raised $33 million so far, minus the whole Prosperity7 divestiture kerfluffle (national security made a saudi-backed fund sell), so I'd be surprised if he owned in excess of 5%. It looks to me like exactly the kind of investment I would expect a wealthy angel to make in startups re…

I tried to find estimates of Sam's net worth and found estimates from 250-700 million usd. However, it seems that most of his net worth is bound up in equity in private companies and startups[1]. 1 million usd could be a very substantial part of his liquid net worth. [1] https://www.thestreet.com/investors/sam-altman-net-worth-how...

Sam Altman claimed to have written a $375 million check from his own money to invest in Helion Energy. Maybe when all the lawsuits happen we will know more about his investments.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Well, that's why it's phrased as a joke. So they can shrink from and deny any possible conflict.

Personally directed comments aren't typically welcome here. Attack the topic or opinion, not the person.

I wasn't attacking the person, rather the style of argument being made.

Ironically, your follow up comment does point out the typical HN rush to judgment, a much more literal ad hominem.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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post #74

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Who can forget "the orb", altman seems like a complete clown who lucked into the holy grail that is openai: https://fortune.com/crypto/2023/03/21/sam-altman-orb-scan-ey...

A high school grad is in charge of a cutting edge AI startup. Generally I wouldn't gatekeep, but here, it seems apt.

Thankfully, it doesn't appear that you're in the position to gate-keep this.

The American education system is no measure of a person's worth. I've already built and sold one startup somehow despite your sneering, and I dropped out after a semester and a half. I'm now working on my second. Try to avoid the urge to casually dismiss entire categories of people because you want to elevate yourself above one of them. Books are available without spending $40k per year.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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post #69

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You don't think that's at least a bit of an apples to oranges comparison?

I don't. And I'll take the points hit. OpenAI isn't a government agency or entity. They're free to no-bid or to use and purchase resources that someone within the company has ties to. The replies here are loaded with accusations of fraud; A typical HN rush to judgement.

Conflict of interest is not fraud. It's conflict of interest. And it's possible in public and private organizations of all kinds.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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What is "this kind of stuff"? I am confused as to what the accusation is. I understand that you should be looked at closely and scrutinised when there is a possible conflict of interest, but why would it be okay to vaguely assume foul play when it could just be someone who is committed to making something work? Better/more infrastructure is needed, as is evident every time I send a query to openai/ms. What is bad abo…

>What is bad about trying to make it happen yourself, "So committed I can't be honest"?? If you can't be honest and inform people of possible conflicts of interest, it is bad and you know yourself it's bad.

Where is founding for the accusation that this wasn’t already known to the board? Despite including a quote you made up, this line of argument relies on a false premise.

Yes, “IF” you can’t inform people of possible conflicts of interest, that is bad. But it’s also irrelevant as of yet.

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