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Re: UniFi Express

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Post by vetinari »

samch wrote: post #56
xvector wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kinda hate Ubiquiti routers. My UDM Pro felt like a total scam, with the IDS/IPS being nowhere close to advertised. They promised but never introduced WireGuard. I also experienced strange bugs in the stack. I eventually moved to OPNSense but the router I bought from them died. The interface was too cumbersome anyways, from the perspective of someone that just wanted WireGuard server+client, IPS/IDS, and VLAN. I fi…

For what it’s worth, Ubiquiti supports WireGuard now, and it’s very easy to setup: https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005445768-UniFi-Gat...

Only on some routers. It is not supported on USG3 or USG4-PRO, for example.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by midasuni »

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #160
stbenjam wrote: post #10

Another confused product from UniFi. Is it targeting home users or businesses? It looks like businesses from their web page yet feels very much like a better fit for home. It only runs UniFi Network, so you have to buy more things, that also run UniFi Network, to get into any of their other products like Protect. I like their stuff but lately a lot of their stuff feels just confused to me, like they don't know what t…

I don't even know what UniFi is so I'm a little lost by the site. "What is UniFi Express? It's a UniFi stack in a box." What the heck, lol? "Wi-Fi at remote sites." It's a 5G hotspot? "Secure WAN VPN between remote offices." It's managed Wireguard? It's a Wi-Fi AP with a weather forecast LCD on the front? I must not be the target demo.

Yes it is.

If you want to deploy a typical small office traditionally you’d have wifi, switching, routing, firewall, vpn. Typically some of this would be integrated into a single box (routing and firewall for example), but you have a bunch of different specialist bits of equipment to manage and interoperate.

This is unifi’s version of “we provide a one stop shop”, with your entire network managed through a single and of glass

It’s nothing unique, but it’s unifi’s version.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by lukeholder »

izacus wrote: post #198
cedilla wrote: post #158

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If you need 6 or more unifi devices, that's quite advanced. And quite a large area. If you have such a big house and also need WiFi for your fancy lawn mower, I can't shed a tear for the 149 USD budget unifi decice not being adequate for you.

2 floor house + Outside is immediately 3 APs. You'll also need at least one PoE switch to power them. That's 4 devices already, without adding anything else like security cameras or similar.

Yeah so it’s not the device for you and you buy the another higher model in the line up?

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by lukeholder »

kemotep wrote: post #199
Someone1234 wrote: post #196

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In certain scenarios, it may be necessary to assign multiple VLAN tags to the same network port. This is particularly common in environments where devices connected to that port need access to different network segments simultaneously. For example, a networked device in a conference room might require access to VLANs designated for both guest internet and internal company resources. In this case, the port would be co…

This doesn’t answer the question about needing more than 50. Even if there are 20 departments, a development, testing/qa, and production server environment, phones, printers, 12 conference rooms, a dmz, an IoT, staff, and guest wifi, backups on their own vlan, a management vlan, and multiple vpns, you would still come under 50 with a few more to spare. If you have a network like this it might also behoove you to phys…

It also doesn’t answer why a company that has 50 vlans wants to buy a tiny prosumer router.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by midasuni »

boringuser2 wrote: post #18
stbenjam wrote: post #10

Another confused product from UniFi. Is it targeting home users or businesses? It looks like businesses from their web page yet feels very much like a better fit for home. It only runs UniFi Network, so you have to buy more things, that also run UniFi Network, to get into any of their other products like Protect. I like their stuff but lately a lot of their stuff feels just confused to me, like they don't know what t…

A business really shouldn't be running this. Anything that isn't basically your home office is running a solid NGFW with SSL interception.

You’re 10 years out of date. With certificate pinning the dubious benefits of breaking SSL and introducing major severity risk no longer works, far too many exceptions to manage

Run your endpoint security on your devices

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by chrisandchris »

matwood wrote: post #150
chunkyks wrote: post #44

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I bought into their unifi ecosystem years ago. Separate devices, prosumer pricing, features and quality, single pane of glass. ... And I haven't upgraded anything since. Their new products are totally undirected, they aren't making items that are obvious and needed. Their software is falling behind and they just don't care. Case in point: the usg pro 4 is years old but they havent released an updated affordable just-…

I wouldn't say they went to shit, but their products moved away from what I wanted. I had an ER-X and APs and they worked well. I'd like an upgraded ER-X, but don't need a UDM. I ended up continuing to use my ER-X and use Eeros for the APs - got them super cheap on some Amazon deal.

Same here. I have a ER-X deployed to provide internet acces to a bunch of servers. I don't need any cloud service and stuff, just a router with some firewall and NAT.

My next product will be so ething else, because all the new stuff doesn't buy into the "KISS" anymore.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by vetinari »

lukeholder wrote: post #204
kemotep wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn’t answer the question about needing more than 50. Even if there are 20 departments, a development, testing/qa, and production server environment, phones, printers, 12 conference rooms, a dmz, an IoT, staff, and guest wifi, backups on their own vlan, a management vlan, and multiple vpns, you would still come under 50 with a few more to spare. If you have a network like this it might also behoove you to phys…

It also doesn’t answer why a company that has 50 vlans wants to buy a tiny prosumer router.

The GP doesn't talk about a tiny prosumer router:

> limit on their top of line stuff

AFAIK, the limits are 64 VLANs for USG/UDM and 255 on US/USW. Not a tiny prosumer routers here.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by ehutch79 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #82

This product that has a huge caveat that limits it to many people's applications: > UniFi Express supports up to 5 connected UniFi Network devices, including other UniFi Express units, switches, and WiFi access points. Even my home has one AP per floor (3x) and 3x Unifi switches. This is clearly an artificial limitation for market segmentation reasons. I'm not going to rip out Unifi switches to go unmanaged, just for…

Perhaps you are not the target market?

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by catchnear4321 »

lukeholder wrote: post #203
izacus wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 floor house + Outside is immediately 3 APs. You'll also need at least one PoE switch to power them. That's 4 devices already, without adding anything else like security cameras or similar.

Yeah so it’s not the device for you and you buy the another higher model in the line up?

or you buy a different product from a different vendor, due to dissatisfaction with artificial product tiering.

isn’t that typically the implicit message being sent by disgruntled customers complaining about a company’s seeming lack of foresight or excess of greed, or both?

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