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Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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My ears ring when I yawn. Does anyone else get that?

Yep same here, and I don’t have tinnitus. Sometimes I seem to get it temporarily though, for unclear reasons.

It can have to do with allergies. However, it might be something else if it has recently worsened or become more noticeable. Has it always been the same?

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I’ve had tinnitus and its cousin hyperacusis for about 7 years. When I first got them from a particularly loud nightclub, I had rolling panic attacks and insomnia for about the first three weeks, but then they died down to a tolerable background level. Something brought it back in the past couple months and triggered the same reaction again.. it’s not clear what the trigger was this time, but it’s like my brain needs…

When I had an episode of especially loud tinnitus, I discovered I could get some psychosocial relief by playing a song chorus in my head ( I can't hear much on that ear) over and over and imagining the tinnitus is part of the music.

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I’ll add my two cents, I have mild tinnitus on the left ear, like other readers I learned to ignore it and only really notice it when focusing or drawing attention to it. Luckily doesn’t affect my sleep or work. Stress and similar situations seem to intensify it a little and I become more aware. I’ll add a curious one to the discussion, I’m a big AirPods fan, as soon as Apple released the AirPods Pro I bought them, o…

Hmmm, it was within a week or two of getting AirPods Pro (and heavily using the noise cancelling mode) that I developed a strange dull ache/pressure throughout my sinuses and upper jaw. Stopped using noise cancelling and it seems to have improved a lot but hasn’t completely gone away.

Some googling suggests noise cancelling tech has negative side-effects for quite a lot of people.

I strongly suspect that many others must be suffering from environment-/diet-/tech-induced ailments but are simply not inquisitive enough to experiment and identify the sources of discomfort.

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for all people who have tinnitus or the tinnitus is worse because of a visit by the dentist. I have tinnitus and it got much much worse when I got a filling. The reason is they have to make the filling the height of the teeth that was there bevore. even half a mm more can make your jaws clinch and you get tinnitus. My luck I fund another Dentist who took this seriously and took some of the filling away so my jaw didn…

The number of medical ‘professionals’ who just automatically dismiss possible connections like this is utterly depressing. I’m sure they must hear plenty of crackpot theories, but that’s no excuse for failing to help people who can be helped. I’m glad you managed to find a professional who was willing to take the time to actually consider your suggestions and help you.

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I've had Tinnitus since I was 14 (when I went to a concert and stood in front of the speakers). A couple of pieces of advice to people who might be struggling with their tinnitus: 1. You need to learn to cope with it - once you're used to it, it will mostly fade into the background and be manageable. Accepting that it'll never be silent again was very difficult, but that's the only thing hat helped me feel better in…

Earplugs often give me tinnitus when I am wearing them.

They do make the tinnitus more noticeable for sure! By blocking out sounds which would otherwise “mask” the tinnitus, it can become noticeable if it’s otherwise pretty quiet. But in conditions where you really need earplugs I think you still won’t really notice it that much when wearing earplugs (very loud situations).

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My tinnitus completely disappeared when I visited chiropractor, I had some neck issues, after just a few visits, the inner sound completely disappeared, that was uncomfortably relaxing experience, but it just lasted for 2 months, now the sound is back. So my initial assumption that the reason is lack of blood supply, because after those treatments I literally felt the flood of blood going into my brain, it was like the tap was not fully opened before my visit to the doctor.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Mine reminds me of the high-pitched sound made by old, tube TVs. I think it was called the flyback transformer. 16Khz.

That reminds me of the old crt tv my parents had for ages in their room that i could hear from the other side of the house but they couldn't that made the most awful high pitch whine. and as the screen would go black in some sort of sleep mode but it kept making that horrible noise with the only indicator that is was on still other than the noise, that apparently only i and dogs could hear, was the color of a small d…

Most children can hear very high frequencies and it usually causes them discomfort. For a while it was actually used as a deterrent for loitering youth in the Netherlands (the "mosquito device"), which was terrible for me: as an adult I can not only still hear that, but it's almost unbearable.

Very old CRT monitors can have a similar effect, but they are usually not that loud. A friend once tried to test it using one of those "silent" ringtones for kids and I nearly destroyed his phone, without meaning to react so strongly.

Many years later a niece was able to ask an expert about this and he told her it's probably "cochlear hyperacusis", something that can make you overly sensitive to certain sounds or frequencies.

I do not have any other hearing issues, except for a single 20 second burst of tinnitus that will start loud and quickly taper off completely, which only happens maybe once every 6 months or so.

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We're mostly talking about it coming back. A treatment might eliminate the vast amount of cancer cells, but some can be lying dormant and wake back up at some later time (and since they survived, the ones that are more resistant to treatment have been selected-- prognosis is then much worse the second time around). Or sometimes those "seeds" of recurrent cancer never awake. Of course, people who get one cancer are, o…

That was mostly what I had in mind. There's plenty of diseases where you're cured in the sense that your body can passively take care of it from here, but there's a chance it flares up again. I was unclear if most cancers were a "you got rid of it, but a different part of your kidney developed a cancer now" as compared to "that cancer you had before is back"

The general thinking is not that the cancer will hopefully stay dormant but there's a chance it will flare up in the future. The act of flaring up is what makes the tumor a malignant cancer as opposed to a benign cyst. A cancer cell is already flaring up by definition.

Rather, the usual model is that you physically extract the cancer, or you poison it, and you hope that you removed or killed all of the living cancer cells. If one is left, the cancer will grow back over time. This is why a metastatic cancer is so much worse than one that hasn't yet metastasized - after metastasis, cancer cells can be located pretty much anywhere in your body, but before metastasis, they are all localized to wherever the cancer originally developed, and if you remove enough tissue, it's plausible that you might get them all.

This model is somewhat in tension with (part of) the concept of partial remission, where the growth of a cancer becomes slower. But in such a case, it is even more obvious than usual that the cancer of the future is the same cancer as the cancer of the past, since we could observe it the whole time.

You might also consider the implications of the fact that the terminology for what appears to be a total absence of cancer is "cancer in remission". We say that because we can't know whether the cancer is actually gone. If it isn't gone, it will come back.

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https://uselullaby.com "Lullaby can lower your Tinnitus' volume and improve your quality of life with an experimental treatment designed specifically for you." I'm just promoting this because I've tried this myself and it kind of helps. At least to relax when the noise gets too painful to bear My case is linked to the neurovascular conflict, but the tool is for the brain, so I hope it helps someone else too.

what is the neurovascular conflict?

Disclaimer - I’m not a doctor. Simply speaking, the vessel in my brain got too close to the nerve, causing me to become almost 100% deaf on one side, the whole thing took 1 day, probably as a result of a stressful day, combined with the overall setup of my brain. The lack of signals coming from the ear is now causing my brain to “hear” the sound based on what is happening in a vein, some false data coming (and also not coming) to the brain, that’s tinnitus. It’s something between the sound of an old tv and the sound they play in movies when a hero gets too close to an explosion.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Tea tree oil is an ototoxin. I had what I thought was a wart on the backside of one of my ears, and when I put a cotton ball with one drop of tea tree oil on it, I immediately heard ringing and ripped it off. The ringing has remained. It's not severe, but I've read stories online where people have put tea tree oil directly in their ear canal and were badly affected. This has to be relatively common, with how popular tea tree oil is in products that you put on your head. I bet people don't realize their tinnitus is caused by the tea tree oil and continue using the products.

Also, I have a friend who has severe tinnitus as a result of an ear infection. He really struggled with it in the beginning, but hasn't mentioned it in a while.

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