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Re: UniFi Express

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Post by phpisthebest »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #70
marcus0x62 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s…Not an accurate description of how things work in the real world. There are large enterprises out there with NGFWs that aren’t doing much TLS inspection. Your average mom and pop business is more likely to have a wifi AP/router/NAT gateway combo from their ISP than something as feature rich as Unifi, let alone a real NGFW.

Every major company I’ve been at absolutely positively does NOT MitM their own traffic. They pay security people well enough to realize what a massive hole that creates in their security posture, and makes the intercepting appliance a cess pit of regulatory toxic waste. PCI, MNPI, even HIPPA from employees visiting their health insurance site? Check, check, check! All on a silver platter for insiders and hackers.

Pretty sure that is not true, almost every major security vendors recommends Deep packet inspection of unknown traffic (which requires Decryption)

Most of the time there are white lists that exempt huge amounts of known traffic to common SaaS services, and known company resources (like Health Insurance) traffic, but if it not a known service than that traffic should absolutely been decrypted and inspected.

Cisco, Palo Alto, Zscaller, etc all do this

Re: UniFi Express

#162

Post by mrweasel »

It looks really cool, but personally I'm starting to give up on wifi. The spectrum in my neighborhood is so over utilized that at certain points during the evening I get random dropout in my wifi coverage.

Every single thing that can be wired will be wired. The UniFi Express seems to be geared towards mesh networking, I still don't trust that to be reliable.

Re: UniFi Express

#163

Post by rompledorph »

chunkyks wrote: post #44
stbenjam wrote: post #10

Another confused product from UniFi. Is it targeting home users or businesses? It looks like businesses from their web page yet feels very much like a better fit for home. It only runs UniFi Network, so you have to buy more things, that also run UniFi Network, to get into any of their other products like Protect. I like their stuff but lately a lot of their stuff feels just confused to me, like they don't know what t…

I bought into their unifi ecosystem years ago. Separate devices, prosumer pricing, features and quality, single pane of glass. ... And I haven't upgraded anything since. Their new products are totally undirected, they aren't making items that are obvious and needed. Their software is falling behind and they just don't care. Case in point: the usg pro 4 is years old but they havent released an updated affordable just-…

Just don’t use the built in firewall and use an external of your choice. That works for me.

Re: UniFi Express

#164

Post by philjohn »

cedilla wrote: post #158
izacus wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a few APs to cover a house is far from"advanced" setup. We live in times where lawn movers need wifi.

If you need 6 or more unifi devices, that's quite advanced. And quite a large area. If you have such a big house and also need WiFi for your fancy lawn mower, I can't shed a tear for the 149 USD budget unifi decice not being adequate for you.

This.

I have a pretty large house and I would be fine with this - I have three AP's and a 48 port PoE switch for the 36 drops in my house.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by RankingMember »

stbenjam wrote: post #10

Another confused product from UniFi. Is it targeting home users or businesses? It looks like businesses from their web page yet feels very much like a better fit for home. It only runs UniFi Network, so you have to buy more things, that also run UniFi Network, to get into any of their other products like Protect. I like their stuff but lately a lot of their stuff feels just confused to me, like they don't know what t…

Yeah I'm confused- does this mean they're killing off their Amplifi consumer brand?

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by tjoff »

pugworthy wrote: post #123
Someone1234 wrote: post #82

This product that has a huge caveat that limits it to many people's applications: > UniFi Express supports up to 5 connected UniFi Network devices, including other UniFi Express units, switches, and WiFi access points. Even my home has one AP per floor (3x) and 3x Unifi switches. This is clearly an artificial limitation for market segmentation reasons. I'm not going to rip out Unifi switches to go unmanaged, just for…

It's $149. I think you're expecting more from it than what your more advanced home setup needs. Mind you it talks a big talk for that price.

> UniFi Express supports up to 5 connected UniFi Network devices, including other UniFi Express units, switches, and WiFi access points.

What does that even mean?

That it bundles a controller that is not "capable" of handling more than 5 unifi devices? Who comes up with shit like that? Lets punish people that get too dependent on us and tries to buy too many devices. Let's squeeze some more out of them and risk them switching to a competitor instead rather than build a relationship with us.

I've been worried about the future of unifi for my needs. The USG was a good deal. A bit slow (not gbit in routing but decent enough for most, not great VPN performance) but we have been waiting for an upgrade that surely was just around the corner for well over 6 years now YIKES! Feels like it has been out of stock for many years as well so hard to get replacements. The power bricks are starting to die, easy enough to get third party for that but feels like a dead end.

The nicer units are just overkill for most, and are quite hard to justify the cost. The ones targeted for the home do too much.

And just like that, I've missed the replacment(?!): UXG-lite

https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/pro/category/all-cloud-keys-ga...

First glance, seems like it is a direct replacement, perfect! Exact same thing but newer and faster. And you get to host your own controller, that is a relief.

These are cheap enough that you can recommend your immediate family to get and then manage centrally in your own network.

Need to do some more research but for once I'm hopeful about ui.

Re: UniFi Express

#168

Post by poisonborz »

smcleod wrote: post #47
I_Am_Nous wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are still far more people below gigabit speeds than there are people hitting their gig. As more fiber is deployed that may change, but it's still a very functional device regardless.

The cost of 2.5G chipsets is so low it really shouldn't matter especially for a 'premium' product like this.

It's not the cost of ports, but doing all the traffic processing for +500% of bandwith.

Re: UniFi Express

#169

Post by smcleod »

poisonborz wrote: post #168
smcleod wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cost of 2.5G chipsets is so low it really shouldn't matter especially for a 'premium' product like this.

It's not the cost of ports, but doing all the traffic processing for +500% of bandwith.

2.5G is absolutely nothing for modern chipsets and processors.

Re: UniFi Express

#170

Post by globular-toast »

CobaltFire wrote: post #48
chenzhekl wrote: post #6

Could anyone help explain what this is. Is it just a fancy WiFi router?

Sort of, and sort of not. UniFi requires a controller that gives you a single pane of glass style interface to control everything. Most of their controllers can run multiple applications, the top two being Network and Protect. Network runs their Routing, WiFi AP's, and Switches and gives you in depth data about what's going on where. Protect is their NVR system, which also does some AI stuff and ties into a few other…

I don't get why anyone would want/need the Unifi controller but doesn't already have somewhere to run the controller. I just ran it on my NAS but presumably could be run on a Raspi or something.
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