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Not a real engineer (2019)

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Re: Not a real engineer (2019)

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Post by appplication »

klik99 wrote: post #16
kazinator wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way I interpret the poem's message is that sometimes hiring can concentrate on the wrong estimators of ability, ignoring indicators that the applicant can open a can of whoop-ass.

Interesting - I interpreted it as how it feels to take rejection very personally - someone not getting the job feeling like there is something deeply wrong with themselves

I also interpreted it this way. Despite your knowledge of who you are and what you believe you have to offer, job interview rejection can feel like a personal attack.

Of course you’re not a fit for this role, why would you ever apply? We considered you before we knew who you were. But now we see you as you truly are. Monstrously unqualified. Your 15 years of experience in distributed systems is nice, but we’re really looking for someone who could invert a binary tree in 10 minutes, and, well, you were on track for 20+ before we kindly stepped in and asked if you had any questions for us.

Re: Not a real engineer (2019)

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Post by Tcepsa »

I love it! Reminds me a bit of the protagonist of Aphyr's Verb-ing the Technical Interview series, with the parentheses of salt and bough of cloud pine and deep arcane knowledge.

Re: Not a real engineer (2019)

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Post by metabagel »

clbrmbr wrote: post #10
quickthrower2 wrote: post #4

> the belt at your waist is a serpent Ah..... you could have just said it wasn't a Python position. Are you after a crustacean or a gopher?

Omg. Crustacean. I just got it! (Doing AoC this year to develop my exoskeleton.)

I’m doing AOC as well to learn python, just for fun.

Re: Not a real engineer (2019)

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Post by OldGuyInTheClub »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #20
OldGuyInTheClub wrote: post #17

An avatar of Vishnu can't get hired? Sounds about right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narasimha

The problem with Vishnu is he is limited to only having four arms and two ears, which of course limits Vishnu to supporting at most two production systems and, therefore, not being able to handle "web scale."[0] 0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs

Ah, yes. Minimum of ten years experience in a tool that's only been around for five.

I miss Xtranormal.

Re: Not a real engineer (2019)

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Post by exclusiv »

I just recently got into Steve Howe. He's considered one of, if not the best guitarist of all time and I came across a quote he had that said something like he wished guitarists would focus on being musicians. Same thing as coders to engineers.

I've come across more technically able programmers than I am. But they aren't better engineers. And a lot of that is because I'm an entrepreneur and have a marketing secondary background as well.

So many companies discount non coding skillsets that actually make one an engineer in my opinion.

They hire the butcher instead of the chef and then wonder why it tastes like shit when it's cooked.

Re: Not a real engineer (2019)

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Post by uguuo_o »

exclusiv wrote: post #26

I just recently got into Steve Howe. He's considered one of, if not the best guitarist of all time and I came across a quote he had that said something like he wished guitarists would focus on being musicians. Same thing as coders to engineers. I've come across more technically able programmers than I am. But they aren't better engineers. And a lot of that is because I'm an entrepreneur and have a marketing secondary…

Just a minor note. Howe is good, one of the best yes, but Paco De Lucia reigns far above them all.

Re: Not a real engineer (2019)

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Post by numpad0 »

jongjong wrote: post #12

So it's not just me then. Is it implying that software engineer job adverts are fake? If the problem is oversupply of talent, you'd think salaries should drop as people compete for limited jobs... But that would only be the case if we had a free market. I feel like to get a job as a software engineer, you have to pretend to be brainwashed. Just act very friendly and optimistic, pretend to be member of a minority grou…

Businesses desire either money printing machines or money printing operators. Generic printer architects are rarely needed because they’re not specialized in printing money fast. Nevertheless postings say they’re looking for architects.
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