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Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by BreadPants »

hackernewds wrote: post #304
BreadPants wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lemme guess, somewhat narrow palate, slightly recessed jaw. Unable to breathe exclusively through the nose during high intensity workout. Possible indications of sleep apnea. If they're detecting nerve damage, it's happening from nerve compression. Tinnitus being a manifestation of the compressed nerve. I would bet money rapid palatal expansion with a proper midpalatal suture split would cure you.

how does nerve damage relate to sleep apnea? doctors have recommended tonsil removal to expand my palate space. also have tinnitus bte

It doesn't. If you have tinnitus caused by any one or more of the other issues, you likely have sleep apnea on top of it.

Enlarged tonsils themselves are indicative of poor nasal breathing. If you have them completely removed you'll suffer from greatly reduced immune response. You have a fighting chance with intracapsular. Palate expansion through a good Ortho is still probably way better.

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Post by ddingus »

nsxwolf wrote: post #97
jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

I can do that. It is like a roar at the loudest point I can manage. A light effort sounds a lot like the ship thruster sound in Asteroids.

I find I can clench the muscle, but can only and occasionally relax the thing.

When I do clench, my ear response curve in the midrange, say 800Hz to a few KHz, is improved.

Have a fan handy? Try it and listen. You may hear a lot more from that fan.

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Post by jader201 »

dahart wrote: post #313
jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

> pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Have you tried pulling up to make it less noticeable? I’ve long suspected my neck muscles had something to do with making tinnitus worse. Or, like you said, maybe there is a correlation or interaction with head & neck muscles that isn’t causal but nonetheless seems to affect the symptoms. Cervical traction, i.e. a device that pulls up on your head, sometimes seem…

Interesting, that may help but if so only slightly. I wonder if an inversion table would help identify whether this helps/is a factor.

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Post by ajkjk »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

It's fascinating how many people have various versions of these problems and a bunch of their own theories about it. And how many of them are frustrated by orthodontistry for not helping or causing it or making it worse.

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Post by anonporridge »

localghost3000 wrote: post #22

I've got multiple tones in both ears. Most of the time I don't notice it but sometimes... well it's hard not to panic when you realize you can't escape it. I would very much like to experience life without the ringing again before I kick the bucket. I'd honestly probably cry.

It's unbelievably depressing in the initial onset.

Couldn't sleep. Couldn't do my job. Forced to take extended time off. Terrorized by the possibility that I would never be able to work again.

Closet I've ever come to suicide.

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Post by carlsagat »

aspaviento wrote: post #270
carlsagat wrote: post #177

My tinnitus started in 2009 during an anxiety period (the worst period of my life) and basically due to an ototoxic drug for dizziness. I had already experienced it after going to a nightclub when I was a younger but I never thought that this problem would remain forever due to a doctor prescription drug. Not only that but in the next years I got two more ringings and now I (don't have anxiety anymore) I can live nor…

Does it also sound stronger for you after a nap or intense exercise?

Nope, it only gets stronger after some use - or abuse- of headphones with medium-high volume.

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Post by echelon »

hackernewds wrote: post #300
carrozo wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a whole subreddit dedicated to this, which they call “ear rumbling”: https://www.reddit.com/r/earrumblersassemble/

wow there's a word for my useless ability!

Not everyone can do this? That's wild.

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Post by t4h4 »

mrtksn wrote: post #75

I have tinnitus which I managed to cure(almost. In complete silence I still can hear a teapot-like sound but the original single tone high volume sound is no more). Turns out it’s about my neck. I religiously paid attention to my neck position and fixed my posture, and as a result, my tinnitus gradually disappeared. If I sit in a bad position or sometimes do some weird move, my tinnitus can return but I immediately s…

Mine was caused by my neck as well! At some point I was contemplating suicide because it got so bad. Completely healed with dry needle theraphy.

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Post by jxramos »

Does anyone know where the research went regarding cold sores on the lip at the virus which causes them? I heard a doctor once speak on the subject that HSV1 I think it is for the lips, goes and burrows in the nerves of the jaw and face and jumps over to the auditory nerve at some point. I was never able to verify any of those claims but it sounded feasible.

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Post by someNameIG »

technothrasher wrote: post #249
localghost3000 wrote: post #22

I've got multiple tones in both ears. Most of the time I don't notice it but sometimes... well it's hard not to panic when you realize you can't escape it. I would very much like to experience life without the ringing again before I kick the bucket. I'd honestly probably cry.

I've had it for as long as I can remember, I suspect it's been there since birth. As a small child, I thought it was normal and that it was what the Simon & Garfunkel song "The Sound of Silence" was talking about. Anyway, I think I may be lucky in that I've never experienced not having it, so it doesn't bother me at all. It's just there.

Same with me, can't remember when mine started. I knew pretty early it wasn't normal though as for me it's only in my left ear.

Unless I'm actively thinking about it (like now), most of the time it's nt an issue, and it's quiet enough to be easily drowned out.

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