> every large aircraft in the world is equipped with a device called an IFF -- "identification friend or foe." This is weird, I'm sure I don't have all the facts. In a conflict, why would a military aircraft ever want to identify itself?
More interestingly why not fake it and claim to be civilian? Logically speaking: - no identification: risk being shot down by both sides - correct identification: risk being shot down by the enemy - fake civilian identification: no risk of being shot down?
The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
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Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
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There's surely a lot of evil being done, but I'm not entirely convinced by the article about civilian losses. 42% are children (compared to 6% in Ukraine, 8.6% in Iraq and 10% in Syria). How could an attacker ever achieve that even they tried? If those atypical numbers are true it shows that defenders are not protecting their children like any sane population would but rather place them in obvious military targets to…
Gaza’s population is very young, so these numbers reflect the demographics. If anything, it shows that Israel is indiscriminate in its killing in Gaza. Bombs tend to be that way. But of course, we don’t know what and who to trust. Maybe we should ask why Israel is suppressing any reporting from the strip if they are interested in that the world gets to know the truth about what is happening there.
I think reporters are there, after all they are getting killed too. Again I can't blame Israel for trying to keep repoters away since their deaths are very impactful and also since Palestinians have a huge history of faking deaths and injuries for reporting purposes. Maybe history is the wrong word because there are cases of this even as recent as last hostage-prisoner exchange.
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> I'm not claiming it's always the case just it's sometimes the case Lol, that's a solid foundation for a logical argument. "Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit", is a football-manager level of philosophy... In the end, if we cannot build a coherent foreign policy based on solid humanitarian principles in the third millennium, what hope do we have to survive as a species? If might makes right, sooner or later…
> if we cannot build a coherent foreign policy based on solid humanitarian principles in the third millennium, what hope do we have to survive as a species? Apparently we can't do that since we are keeping protected a group of people that want to have specific ethnicity dead so much that they put it into their constitution. I'm all for harmonic and humanitarian future, but to ever hope achieving that sworn murderers…
Most armed movements in contested territories are historically overcome not by "subduing", but by actually addressing the grievances of the mainstream population who helps them. Look at Northern Ireland: the IRA was never defeated by military means, but they were engaged politically to solve the mainstream grievances that were well-founded: removing most anti-catholic discrimination across society, allowing free movement across the Irish border, and allowing each person to define themselves as Irish if they wanted to (rather than British). Until Israel takes a serious integrationist approach that removes its apartheid-style structures, the mainstream in Gaza will continue to support armed resistance, because they have nothing to lose from doing so and nothing to gain from not doing so.
> notice it's a practical philosophy
No, it's just fatalistic shortsightedness. If you can't imagine a better world, obviously you can't build it.
> Why do the Indians own more property in London than the British?
Because they resisted their occupation, reclaimed their immense land and resources, and fought to get back on a level playing-field. Definitely not because they accepted white-man rule!
(And if you claim that living in London is something to crave, man, you've probably never been there for more than a week :)
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Is that why it immediately started colonizing it's neighbor when it could get away with it (as in, when it didn't cost too much to keep the colonies secure)? Also, what other country in the world is allowed to literally push settlements outside of its territory, and then slowly conquer said settlements? Actually,which other country it allowed to colonize anything without international condemnation?
In another country? Probably there's none. In their own country, on territories claimed by some minority as their own? I bet there's a few at least. Something in Azerbaijan for sure.
Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
#675Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gaza’s population is very young, so these numbers reflect the demographics. If anything, it shows that Israel is indiscriminate in its killing in Gaza. Bombs tend to be that way. But of course, we don’t know what and who to trust. Maybe we should ask why Israel is suppressing any reporting from the strip if they are interested in that the world gets to know the truth about what is happening there.
Population of Syria is nearly just as young. I don't see anything to justify 4 times as high children death percentage there. I think reporters are there, after all they are getting killed too. Again I can't blame Israel for trying to keep repoters away since their deaths are very impactful and also since Palestinians have a huge history of faking deaths and injuries for reporting purposes. Maybe history is the wrong…
It’s a well known fact that Israel is limiting information coming out from Gaza. If all the reports about their indiscriminate killings were false, wouldn’t it be in their interest if more independent reporters were there, not fewer?
You have already made up your mind, and no evidence will ever make you change your mind. You are trying to explain away all the evidence, and when you can’t, you’ll just say it is lies created by Hamas.
Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
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I agree in part. But my question was basically this: when Hamas is eliminated and less extreme groups come to power, but are still committed to armed struggle … how should they proceed? Would it be legitimate to use guerilla tactics like the French resistance?
I have no idea. I guess Palestinians need something like the next Arafat, who actually commits to a 2-states solution. Or whatever leading group that is non-terrorist and that Israël feels safe negotiating with (there are a few). I feel that would be the best solution for most people involved. That is, if and when Hamas is eradicated, which is a big if. A war with Iran isn't out of the question. Thing is Hamas repres…
You need far fewer than 10% if a population to cause havoc for decades to come. I’m not condoning it, but the reality is that unless settlements are moved and Israel takes some bitter medicine this will reoccur in 10 years time when the next round of radicalised people come of age.
Remember, Netanyahu had been actively using Hamas as a way to divide the Palestinians and make 2 state solution less likely. the approach of Israel over the past 20 years doesn’t make the attacks right or justify them, but it made them more likely because it has humiliated a large enough population living very close to them and left them with no other effective options beyond nonviolent resistance. I wish they had chosen that, but it’s easier to say than live with.
Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
#677I wonder when a tesla will show up in a courtroom with a situation like this. I'm not talking about autopilot. I'm talking about the continuous (past ridiculous) removal of physical controls from their vehicles. For example, the original model S/X had dedicated controls for lots of functions - turn signals, gear shift, wipers, autopilot, steering wheel tilt, etc. On the steering wheel, there were two buttons and a sc…
Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
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Yet, the USS Sides steaming nearby identified it correctly as a civilian flight with no difficulty.
Presumably because their operator did not make the same mistake as the one on the Vincennes?
Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
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> Again: you admitted that not all Wehrmacht soldiers were evil, monsters, or even Nazis (other than nominally). I mostly meant that I don't think all of them should have been executed, 18 million Germans served in the Wehrmacht. > I don't believe some Hans or Johann deserves to be hated 70 years later because of what happened back then. The russians have been oppressing and killing Ukrainians for over 300 years, 199…
> The russians have been oppressing and killing Ukrainians for over 300 years I know - and they did the same here, in Poland. We've lost our sovereignty, our culture was suppressed for centuries, and then we lost our elites in mass killings under Stalin again. I know, and believe me - I don't love Russians, nor do I support them. They are culturally closer to the Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan than to Europeans. Not t…
The Germans were forcefully re-educated after WW2, do you also disagree with that?
> In any case, no killing, please.
The russian leadership and war criminals will have to be killed, and they fully deserve it.
Re: The 1988 shooting down of Flight 655 as a user interface disaster
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> The russians have been oppressing and killing Ukrainians for over 300 years I know - and they did the same here, in Poland. We've lost our sovereignty, our culture was suppressed for centuries, and then we lost our elites in mass killings under Stalin again. I know, and believe me - I don't love Russians, nor do I support them. They are culturally closer to the Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan than to Europeans. Not t…
> I disagree with forcefully re-educating and assimilating them - that's precisely what they did to us for centuries, and that's wrong. The Germans were forcefully re-educated after WW2, do you also disagree with that? > In any case, no killing, please. The russian leadership and war criminals will have to be killed, and they fully deserve it.
No. But that wasn't under gunpoint, was it? The Allies left quickly, at least in the West, and local authorities enforced the re-education. Similarly, Japan got a new constitution, and the occupation there ended quickly. The DDR/East Germany was different - the occupation there ended basically in 1991, after the fall of the USSR. I'd favor the Marshal plan-like solution rather than the Soviet model.
> The russian leadership and war criminals will have to be killed, and they fully deserve it.
Maybe they deserve it, but killing them is still beyond what I'd consider moral. Make them work in a mine for the rest of their lives, make sure they get no special treatment, and let them die when their time comes.
War criminals are OK to be killed, but only if captured during the war. I'm not too fond of it, but I understand that martial law must be different from peacetime law. If you catch them after the war is won, I'm against killing them. Again, a lifetime of hard labor in a mine would be better than spilling even more blood.