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Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Post by loveparade »

grpt wrote: post #37
skilled wrote: post #4

Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

I agree. Imagine if dating apps paid you to keep your profile active even if you have no interest in meeting anyone. They pay you $5/month per match with a minimum of 5 messages before ghosting. It keeps lonely men on the platform. For some people, OnlyFans chat is no different. There should be clear disclosures that there is potential the other account is outsourced to a different person, or a LLM. I'm having troubl…

> Imagine if dating apps paid you to keep your profile active even if you have no interest in meeting anyone. They pay you $5/month per match with a minimum of 5 messages before ghosting. It keeps lonely men on the platform. For some people, OnlyFans chat is no different.

What many dating apps do is very close to this. They encourage fake female accounts to keep men on the platform, and what you are being shown is fake/inactive to a large extent. LLMs are the next step of this, I wouldn't be surprised if there are already tons of them. The dating app business is one of the most scammy businesses that exist.

There are some exceptions to this (mostly specific local apps), but they are far and few between.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Post by sidlls »

cocacola1 wrote: post #80
sidlls wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a parallel issue in the world of sugar relationships. I know a few "sugar daddies," and one common theme for all of them is the number of "sugar babies" who lead them on and emotionally manipulate them. It's sad that the SDs fall for it, and it's cruel and pathetic that the SBs do it. It's common enough that there's a sort of meme in the gay twink community about it, even.

The sugar baby/sugar daddy dynamic is entirely transactional. Why would the older person think the younger person is actually attracted to them?

You’d be surprised at how many younger people there are who are legitimately attracted to older people. Aside from that, the “purely transactional” nature of these relationships is more nuanced than you suggest.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Post by sidlls »

tennisflyi wrote: post #72
sidlls wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a parallel issue in the world of sugar relationships. I know a few "sugar daddies," and one common theme for all of them is the number of "sugar babies" who lead them on and emotionally manipulate them. It's sad that the SDs fall for it, and it's cruel and pathetic that the SBs do it. It's common enough that there's a sort of meme in the gay twink community about it, even.

Real SDs fuck. Anything else and you’re a simp/chump/sucker. Crass but true.

It's not always about sex. One of my friends just wants companionship from younger people. In many ways, the "daddies" like him are the most victimized by these fraud "babies". It's sad, and I just wish he had a more healthy sense of his own self-worth. It's a lot like the stereotypical attractive girl always going after the "bad guy" and wondering why their love life is a constant shitshow.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Post by rokkitmensch »

swader999 wrote: post #47
DoodahMan wrote: post #22

i've been considering training some kind of LLM for this job. it's a fun business.. i got started in it with chatbots on AOL.

I'm sure only fans has the upper hand in terms of training data.

Yeah competing with imaginary incumbents is for suckers!
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