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Intelligence agencies' very role is to break laws.
That's not true at all. Intelligence agencies can't just do whatever they want. They are beholden to the people just like every other government agency. They can be granted power to do things that ordinary people can't, but that doesn't mean they are above the law.
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Intelligence agencies' very role is to break laws.
That's not true at all. Intelligence agencies can't just do whatever they want. They are beholden to the people just like every other government agency. They can be granted power to do things that ordinary people can't, but that doesn't mean they are above the law.
There is nothing more morally corrosive than a law enforcement agency betraying the trust represented by their powers.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Intelligence agencies' very role is to break laws.
That's not true at all. Intelligence agencies can't just do whatever they want. They are beholden to the people just like every other government agency. They can be granted power to do things that ordinary people can't, but that doesn't mean they are above the law.
Re: No new boss at NSA until it answers questions on buying location, browsing data
#14How about passing a law explicitly covering the kind of information being collected and sold as actually being private, and against the law to share with anyone without a warrant?
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My guess is that this will probably require a Constitutional Amendment to shore up the fourth amendment (call it 4A++).
It won't. There are already laws in place, like the California Consumer Privacy Act, which governs how user data is handled.
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My guess is that this will probably require a Constitutional Amendment to shore up the fourth amendment (call it 4A++).
It won't. There are already laws in place, like the California Consumer Privacy Act, which governs how user data is handled.
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That's not true at all. Intelligence agencies can't just do whatever they want. They are beholden to the people just like every other government agency. They can be granted power to do things that ordinary people can't, but that doesn't mean they are above the law.
The NSA has literally broken laws, lied about it, and gotten away with it.
In the most technical sense it's legal though of course it subverts the entire idea of the justice system by having a court in your pocket.
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#18How about passing a law explicitly covering the kind of information being collected and sold as actually being private, and against the law to share with anyone without a warrant?
The NSA doesn’t follow the law, so why would that matter?
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Intelligence agencies' very role is to break laws.
An intelligence agency’s role is gathering intelligence on malevolent entities that threaten a country in some way. Not more, not less—but their role certainly isn’t breaking laws per se, or amassing data on the general public to engage in pre-policing. No matter how much certain parties may advocate for that, a democracy cannot exist in a surveillance state, and anyone convinced of that has lost democratic legitimac…
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#20How about passing a law explicitly covering the kind of information being collected and sold as actually being private, and against the law to share with anyone without a warrant?
Intelligence agencies' very role is to break laws.
The US constitution in particular aims to protect the people from government overreach. See the original amendments and read them in that light.