> In our experience, Google isn’t the place for reliable cloud compute, and it’s sure as heck not the place for reliable customer support.
Always was, always will be. For them customers are always the last
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#42Whishing all the best to the railway team, they really are building something nice. Hopefully the move to bare metal will mean price reductions for customers. I am philosophically opposed to cloud providers charging per user on top of very expensive resources but it might just be me.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has moved from native app dev to web dev I just feel my productivity and satisfaction has plummeted. The stack (html, js, css, browser functionality) that makes up the web is just not fit for the purpose of rich client applications. The development of the thick leaky abstractions that make up web frameworks have consumed millenia of human man hours, and yet the experience of developing & using the resu…
To be fair, you probably should expect to be less proficient and satisfied embracing a stack that you weren't using before.
Writing GUIs can be easy. It’s just hard on the web. Some complexity is unavoidable, but the web stack is so broken it makes things 5x harder than it needs to be.
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#44> In our experience, Google isn’t the place for reliable cloud compute
In the early days of cloud computing unreliability was understandable, but for Google to be frustrating its large customers in 2023 is a pretty bad look.
Curious to know if others have had similar experiences, or if the author was simply unlucky?
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#45If you go to Google’s issue tracker, you will find a lot of issues that were ignored. For example, this [0]issue that caused our ANR rate to dip.
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#46As someone who's into virtual worlds, and a user of Second Life, it's impressive to see how well those systems stay up. There hasn't been a total outage of Second Life in 5-10 years. Once Amazon's networking went down in a way that prevented new logins for a whole day, but existing logins remained. The 3D world, which has a lot of stuff going on even with no users around, continued to work. This is an extremely compl…
As someone who has moved from native app dev to web dev I just feel my productivity and satisfaction has plummeted. The stack (html, js, css, browser functionality) that makes up the web is just not fit for the purpose of rich client applications. The development of the thick leaky abstractions that make up web frameworks have consumed millenia of human man hours, and yet the experience of developing & using the resu…
I hear this over and over, but what is the alternative cross-platform stack for building rich local GUI apps? Qt?
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#47> In our experience, Google isn’t the place for reliable cloud compute In the early days of cloud computing unreliability was understandable, but for Google to be frustrating its large customers in 2023 is a pretty bad look. Curious to know if others have had similar experiences, or if the author was simply unlucky?
I don't know how it happened, but I used GKE for a side project, which was overkill for such a small project, and I could live with $100 /month, but the bill kept creeping up to $300 and later $400 with no apparent explanation or workload increase. I had no choice but to revert to something else. Ended up with good old Heroku with $20/month and never regretted it
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#48"reasons why Oxide has a business #12390"
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has moved from native app dev to web dev I just feel my productivity and satisfaction has plummeted. The stack (html, js, css, browser functionality) that makes up the web is just not fit for the purpose of rich client applications. The development of the thick leaky abstractions that make up web frameworks have consumed millenia of human man hours, and yet the experience of developing & using the resu…
I hear this over and over, but what is the alternative cross-platform stack for building rich local GUI apps? Qt?
Or Delphi.
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#50Maybe it is me but this doesn’t exactly reflect well on anyone. Isn’t the value prop of railway not having to worry about things like this? It doesn’t matter what the problem is - you shouldn’t be passing such problems on to customers at all.
I have worked on a product that caused such a spike on Google App Engine that within 20 minutes of it going public Google were on the phone explaining their pagers all went off, and in that case resolved to temporarily bump the quota up for 48 hours while a mutual workaround was implemented. The state of Google Cloud today seems just another classic case of the trend of blaming the customer.