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Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by kitsune_ »

KomoD wrote: post #179
nobrains wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My symptoms started along with my jaw crackling. So it seems they are related. Putting my symptoms here: - Constant noise in ear - Also seems like noise / tingling sensation in the brain - Is higher just when I wake up - Started along with an infection that went to the ear. Infection cleared up. Tinnitus didn't. - Been on for a year and a half. - Its terribly unbearable. Not suicidal level but very close to it.

> - Its terribly unbearable. Not suicidal level but very close to it. I feel that, it sucks. For me it started with like a "blocked" feeling, now I'm at the point where it's constant static which makes it impossible to sleep on my side, sometimes my left ear goes "deaf" momentarily and a sharp ring starts and it makes me "zone out" but ends after 15-30s It's living hell.

I have the same shit, it sucks.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by drmpeg »

LoganDark wrote: post #80
mnemotronic wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mine reminds me of the high-pitched sound made by old, tube TVs. I think it was called the flyback transformer. 16Khz.

15.625KHz to be exact. I can hear this sound quite well, to the point where I prefer not to be in the same building as any CRT that emits it. There are those that don't, mainly newer models I assume. I think it has to do with the exact shape of the waveform that drives the (horizontal part of the) deflection yoke. Some of them are noisier than others.

The exact formula is 4,500,000 / 286 = 15734.265734265... Hz.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by CapsAdmin »

nsxwolf wrote: post #97
jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

I'm not sure if it's the same, but if I listen to pure noise (to sleep or something) I can somewhat adjust my hearing to focus on certain frequency bands in the uniform noise making me to hear a ringing sound in the noise. I can adjust the pitch and it will stay at the pitch until I change it.

So with this I can play a melody with the ringing noise. Sometimes I do this until I fall asleep. :-)

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by CapsAdmin »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

I have the exact same experience. I believe it's called "somatic tinnitus" and I've had it for as long as I can remember.

Every now and then I get ringing in my ears that fade out quickly, which is normal. I always thought that was the sort of constant ringing people had when they talk about tinnitus, and the one you describe is a different class of tinnitus.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by peebeebee »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Yup. Pushing jaw forward is the most prominent one. Goes up a lot.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by j45 »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

This is interesting in terms of tinnitus that can be brought on after a car accident, or a concussion. And maybe as a derivative of the former, TMJ.

A muscle related tinnitus seems entirely plausible to me in addition to any potential nerve related tinnitus tied to, for example, listening to loud music.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by nurettin »

I can induce a sleep paralysis while my consciousness is awake. Why? Well, as a child, I thought it was a cool superpower. As the paralysis sets in, I hear a loud wooshing sound. Then it gets louder and louder until full paralysis sets in. A few years ago I had a similar experience, but it left me with a permanent tinnitus. I guess you can hurt yourself by simply lying down doing nothing.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by mrtksn »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #171
mrtksn wrote: post #75

I have tinnitus which I managed to cure(almost. In complete silence I still can hear a teapot-like sound but the original single tone high volume sound is no more). Turns out it’s about my neck. I religiously paid attention to my neck position and fixed my posture, and as a result, my tinnitus gradually disappeared. If I sit in a bad position or sometimes do some weird move, my tinnitus can return but I immediately s…

Can you describe in more detail how you adjust your position? You move your neck back, I guess, and anything else?

IIRC, when I was trying to mask the sound with the shower I noticed that it's not working when the water is cold or when I'm not comfortably under it. Then I had a few days of road trip without the laptop and noticed improvement when I was driving, sitting up straight.

So I decided to work on this and bought a keyboard and a mouse and made myself a rule that I will always use the laptop with a stand or external display so I don't lean over the laptop and sit straight up the way it is ergonomically recommended, pretty much like it says on articles like this: https://healthandbalance.com.au/workstation-desk-posture-erg...

I also begin doing neck exercises, recommended to me by an orthopedist(I got some neck pain for a few days, the orthopedist gave me a couple of movement I should do regularly to increase the straight of my neck muscles, I will leave links to the leaflets of the movements). I also did the push the chin to push your head back movement because although I didn't have clinically severe situation with my head moving forward I noticed that on my old photos my head wasn't leaning forward that much.

After a week or so after I started sitting right, my tinnitus begin to improve rapidly. I even began sleeping the orthopedically correct way and avoiding any stress positions. After some time I tried experimenting stress positions, like using the laptop the way I used to and the tinnitus returned in full force until I fix the posture and do some massages. After a year or two the tinnitus was almost completely gone and stress positions don't immediately bring it back anymore so I can use laptop again but if I'm not careful and overdo it, get carried away and lean into the screen it returns.

the leaflets:

https://imgbb.com/XWnTZVB

https://imgbb.com/r6PBbTK

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by cedws »

kitsune_ wrote: post #187
jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

As a child my teeth were corrected by pulling my lower jaw back with elastic bands. Not only do I have a weak chin because of this, but in hindsight I think my tinnitus might be related to this as well.

I have major distrust of orthodontics as a practice. I see it as chiropractic for teeth. I have permanent damage to one side of my jaw (TMJ) as a result of braces. They not only put unlevel bite blocks in, they did an extraction before putting my braces on. There is literature pointing to this as a common cause of TMJ issues.

I was told that the clicking sounds are just due to gas in the joint by a TMJ specialist, but I can literally feel my jaw jut to one side, so I'm convinced the bone is damaged.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by riccardomc »

nsxwolf wrote: post #97
jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

I am genuinely shocked I can do it...
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