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Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by drivebyacct2 » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 9:59 PM UTC

josephcooney wrote: post #62

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #36

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Skydrive is a sad joke that points out how many easy opportunities Microsoft has to leap frog Android and iCloud. They already have a huge cloud platform. They are have millions of Live users. They're finally integrating Live accounts as Windows accounts. They refuse to add dropbox like functionality to SkyDrive to make it possible to just have a set of files synced between all Windows (8, specifically) and WP device…

re: why did they drag their feet so long on integrating 'live' stuff into windows - there was this little outfit called the U.S. government that slapped them with a consent decree that prevented them doing stuff like this.....

That's... not what they got into trouble for.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by drivebyacct2 » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:00 PM UTC

mmmmbop wrote: post #42

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Skydrive is a sad joke that points out how many easy opportunities Microsoft has to leap frog Android and iCloud. They already have a huge cloud platform. They are have millions of Live users. They're finally integrating Live accounts as Windows accounts. They refuse to add dropbox like functionality to SkyDrive to make it possible to just have a set of files synced between all Windows (8, specifically) and WP device…

Uh, they have a dropbox-like client coming out soon. Also, I far prefer their web interface to dropbox's. I see no reason to continue using dropbox once skydrive client comes out. ...unless you're on linux :)

Actually, again to make up for my inaccurate post, I have to give them kudos. I believe they're rolling out an oAuth api for SkyDrive so someone could build a linux client.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by ppod » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:04 PM UTC

K2h wrote: post #48

ChuckMcM wrote: post #17

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It would be humorous if sometimes when you opened your file in your Gdrive it was a media appropriate file containing an advertisement. Open it in a text editor get a text file ad, open it in an mp3 player get an audio ad, open it in a video viewer get a video ad. Not all the time of course, just now and then.

You get my vote, not because I think that is a good idea at all, but I agree that is about the most hilarious thing. Thats got to be Googles end game.

The ultimate endgame has to be a Google Online Bank, a Google Amazon, and a machine learning algorithms that bypasses advertising altogether and just buys you stuff before you even know you want it.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by Karunamon » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:05 PM UTC

vibrunazo wrote: post #59

robomartin wrote: post #21

OK, so now when they suspend your Google account you also get to experience loosing whatever you had in Google Drive. Just for this I am converting my Dropbox account into one of their paid packages to do my part in ensuring they stick around. One would hope that at one point Google might start to realize that the way they are handling accounts could work against their own interests. I --and I am sure others-- have e…

After pg posted about it, now the new hot trend is to talk about Goggles customer service, whenever the keyword Google appear in one's sight. Seriously, we got it a week ago. We all agree their support suck and competitors should aim to do better. It's getting old. Can we change the subject and stay on topic?

Yeah! It's not like this is a hotly anticipated service that has multiple years of "will they or wont they" hype behind it or anything...

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by Karunamon » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:07 PM UTC

rkudeshi wrote: post #2

This doesn't seem to have any new details on the service other than that its 5GB and launching on Mac/Windows/iOS/Android, which is all in line with expectations. Given all the recent leaks, it really doesn't seem like Google's doing much more than cloning Dropbox. Was I the only one expecting Google to knock this one out of the park, a la Gmail's introduction?

  Was I the only one expecting Google to knock this one out of the park, a la Gmail's introduction?

It's all about the integration. File locker service? Yawn. Everybody and their dog has a new one.

File locker service that's tightly integrated with what is (subjectively, to me) the best online collaboration suite available? And is priced to beat all competitors? Yes please.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by jpadkins » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:08 PM UTC

halo wrote: post #8

rkudeshi wrote: post #2

This doesn't seem to have any new details on the service other than that its 5GB and launching on Mac/Windows/iOS/Android, which is all in line with expectations. Given all the recent leaks, it really doesn't seem like Google's doing much more than cloning Dropbox. Was I the only one expecting Google to knock this one out of the park, a la Gmail's introduction?

A Dropbox clone with a better Android client would make me switch immediately. The Android Dropbox client doesn't even let you download folders at once, only individual files.

just curious.. what file types do you want on your phone?

I don't have a use case for mobile file syncing for myself.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by tomkarlo » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:11 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #26

citricsquid wrote: post #19

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Although Google launching Google Drive shows that they see value in a dropbox type system, what is that value? I can understand Youtube because video is a huge part of the internet and advertising, but what value is there in hosting peoples files? I can't work out where Dropbox would fit with Google.

Every video started out as a file somewhere. Dropbox could do an end-run around all of this with file viewers, including video. And spreadsheets and so on. It could easily end up bigger than youtube, even if the take-off is a lot slower. They're doing the right thing by keeping it simple as long as they can but I'm fairly sure they're savvy enough to have brainstormed each and every bit that they could add / leave ou…

This doesn't make sense to me. Having a lot of files stored on behalf of individuals does not translate into having a lot of files that users want shared or published. My DropBox account has several gigs of files but there aren't any in there that I'd opt to share publicly if they suddenly offered some kind of publishing platform.

Similar to email vs. Facebook, while there are lots of files people want to share, the reality is that _most_ content individual to users (i.e. not music downloads or software packages) is fairly private stuff.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by Karunamon » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:14 PM UTC

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #71

josephcooney wrote: post #62

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re: why did they drag their feet so long on integrating 'live' stuff into windows - there was this little outfit called the U.S. government that slapped them with a consent decree that prevented them doing stuff like this.....

That's... not what they got into trouble for.

No, but it's what the order basically prevented them from doing.

Don't do illegal sh*t and your company won't suffer.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by jpadkins » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:14 PM UTC

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #71

josephcooney wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

re: why did they drag their feet so long on integrating 'live' stuff into windows - there was this little outfit called the U.S. government that slapped them with a consent decree that prevented them doing stuff like this.....

That's... not what they got into trouble for.

from someone who had to go through consent decree training; yes it was.

they could not leverage windows use base for a competitive advantage in any other product/service.

Re: Google Drive detailed: 5 GB of free space, launching next week

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Post by T-hawk » Mon, Apr 16, 2012, 10:15 PM UTC

fl3tch wrote: post #47

kylec wrote: post #30

I'm hoping this will compel Dropbox to reevaluate their pricing structure. Storage from Google is an order of magnitude cheaper than Dropbox - paid storage starts at $5/year, and for the same $100/year as the cheapest Dropbox account (50GB) you get 8x the capacity.

Or at least offer something in between $0 and $100/yr, like 10 GB for $20/yr and 20 GB for $40/yr (same price per GB as the 50 GB plan).

That runs you into pathological customer territory. People who care about the difference between $20/year and $40/year are not going to be sources of any significant profit, and statistically are the sort that will consume customer service resources for help with trivial issues. Remember that if just one out of five folks who would sign up at $20/year convinces themselves to spend $100/year, you come out ahead.