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Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by 3abiton »

xivzgrev wrote: post #74
moribvndvs wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My tinnitus has a very recent onset. So far it’s pretty mild but I expect it to get much worse. Your advise is the most practical, at least for mild cases: baby the ever living shit out of your hearing (I have spent decades in the underground metal scene and didn’t wear ear plugs until the past 5 or so years. What a colossally stupid thing to do. Please: if you’re young, remember you are not invincible, you’re merely…

Agree. I also made poor choices, drumming as a kid without hearing protection. By time I was in high school I already had tinnitus. Since then I’ve also babied my hearing (earplugs at concerts, playing music in headphones as quietly as possible or avoiding headphones), it’s fortunately stayed about the same over the ensuing years.

Given how spread tinnitus is, I wish there were more campaigns to help to spread awareness. Funny thing, ghe first gike I remember developing tinnitus, was following a evening where the fully pressurized soda stream bottle was not fully closes, so it emmitted this wheezing sound all evening, high pitched. I was too tired to figure out the source, or even if it was real up until the next morning.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

> moving my ears back with my face muscles

Uh, this has always made me hear a high-pitched whirr. Like a tiny buzzer with a dirty power supply. Huh.

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Post by bartvk »

cjsme wrote: post #136
nsxwolf wrote: post #97

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Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

Ditto! Very useful for relieving ear pressure at altitude.

Yeah, I also use it for that. I've asked people the question, "can you click your ears"? Of course, they don't understand me, because it's such a vague question. I started asking, "can you relieve your ear pressure without moving anything else", and most people answer no. One person who dived, answered "yes, of course!" like it's something all people can.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by lutorm »

janmo wrote: post #60

Most people having a peeep tone tinnitus including myself can experience complete silence for a few seconds (up to 30) by listening to a tone at the specific frequency of their Tinnitus. For example listen to the following, at a level that it isn't uncomfortable and your Tinnitus might be gone for a short time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k This is called residual inhibition. You can Google "tinnitus re…

I've always assumed the tinnitus arises from some sort of AGC, automatic gain control, in the auditory system, such that when something is damaged and the signal disappears, the brain will just turn up the gain until the noise is about the level it expects the signal to be.

At least my experience with AGC is that it's useless because times of silence ends up just being filled with noise... "audio system tinnitus..."

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by abdela »

jomamasayknocku wrote: post #73

I’m surprised more people haven’t mentioned noise canceling headphones as a possible cause. There was an HN thread about this awhile back. This has been mentioned on many forums, google it.

My tinnitus (from a single loud party), which I had before noise canceling headphones, gets worse with noise canceling headphones, but only temporarily, like 2 or 3 days.

I found out as well that my headphones plays my own voice back to me so that I dont shout, but was able to turn that off in the settings (Jabra 2), which seems to help.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by phito »

Badly fitting earbuds (Samsung Galaxy Buds) gave me tinnitus in one ear. I still am not sure how that's possible, but wearing them for more than 30mn was hurting my right ear, tinnitus appeared shortly after and kept getting worse. Once I stopped using the buds, the pain went away and the tinnitus decreased, but it's still there one year later.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by nsxwolf »

idonotknowwhy wrote: post #116
smegger001 wrote: post #106

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yeah i think i do the same thing as you with my ears. a flutter is probably the best description of it i had thought of it as clapping or clicking my ears but that is to sharp a sound to really describe it

I can do this too. It also does the same thing as yawning when your ears get blocked on a plane or driving up a steep hill. It unblocks them.

I’m wondering if this is something different, or if it’s a more intense level of the other thing. I’m able to pop my ears without any apparent tensioning of my jaw or a yawn reflex. But I can do it while also making the rushing sound or not.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by Naijoko »

janmo wrote: post #60

Most people having a peeep tone tinnitus including myself can experience complete silence for a few seconds (up to 30) by listening to a tone at the specific frequency of their Tinnitus. For example listen to the following, at a level that it isn't uncomfortable and your Tinnitus might be gone for a short time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k This is called residual inhibition. You can Google "tinnitus re…

mdma does the same for some reason. Total quit for 8h ... but also totaly high.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by thfuran »

doodlebugging wrote: post #30

I recently bought a couple of audiomoths for monitoring or tracking birds passing through my area. It records up to 192kHz I think so it can pick up ultrasonic chirps from bats. Anyway while passing the recorded data into Audacity to search for bird calls I was able to finally nail down the bandwidth where my tinnitus overwhelms all other signal and to begin to understand the depth of my work-related hearing loss. I…

The frequency response of a healthy ear isn't flat across all audible frequencies, so you'd need to reference normal hearing to determine the extent of damage rather than just looking at minimum audible db at various frequencies.

>I am not sure I can inverse filter the tinnitus-related noise since it is random intensity though a notch filter could be an option since it is narrow band.

Are you talking about basically using active noise canceling to silence tinitus? I don't think that's possible.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by lutorm »

sgbeal wrote: post #91
janmo wrote: post #60

Most people having a peeep tone tinnitus including myself can experience complete silence for a few seconds (up to 30) by listening to a tone at the specific frequency of their Tinnitus. For example listen to the following, at a level that it isn't uncomfortable and your Tinnitus might be gone for a short time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k This is called residual inhibition. You can Google "tinnitus re…

> Most people having a peeep tone tinnitus including myself can experience complete silence for a few seconds (up to 30) by listening to a tone at the specific frequency of their Tinnitus. What "works for me" but your kilometrage may vary... i listen to LOTS of white noise. All night when i sleep, when i'm out and about and might normally listen to music, and sometimes just randomly throughout the day. For whatever r…

My tinnitus, both the one that's always present and the one I can provoke with my jaw muscles, is not a single-pitched tone but more like band-limited noise. I did a hearing test and we tried to match it to various frequencies. None of the models they had really fit, but the best one was a sort of moderately-wise noise.
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