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Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by petesergeant » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:30 AM UTC

mnemotronic wrote: post #47

doodlebugging wrote: post #30

I recently bought a couple of audiomoths for monitoring or tracking birds passing through my area. It records up to 192kHz I think so it can pick up ultrasonic chirps from bats. Anyway while passing the recorded data into Audacity to search for bird calls I was able to finally nail down the bandwidth where my tinnitus overwhelms all other signal and to begin to understand the depth of my work-related hearing loss. I…

Mine reminds me of the high-pitched sound made by old, tube TVs. I think it was called the flyback transformer. 16Khz.

Took me a while to realise that I could hear those, but also that I have tinnitus at the same level. For quite a while I assumed someone had turned one on nearby, until it dawned on me that no, I also have tinnitus

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by tuzemec » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:34 AM UTC

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

It sounds like mine is the same flavor. And it's getting worse in the last couple of years. I even did MRI scan at some point, but it didn't reveal anything.

Recently a neurologist recommend transcranial electrical stimulation. Seems that it helps in some cases. Have to look around if someone is performing that here.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by huytersd » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:39 AM UTC

nsxwolf wrote: post #97

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

That is interesting. I assumed everyone could hear that. I can hear the sound (roar, ocean, wind) when I move my jaw forward but I can also just directly control it without moving anything else. It’s a muscle I can feel myself controlling and contracting in my inner ear.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by pdntspa » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:40 AM UTC

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

I have this too, and in fact I can recall that tinnitus first came to me after it felt like something in my ear physically shifted, in a period of my life where I was not listening to loud music or going to loud concerts or otherwise being around loud noise. I should note I've had numerous ear problems in the past (including multiple colestiatomas), and I used to be able to manipulate it with a q-tip or popping my ears. (Don't do that! I regret it)

The head massage technique I've had some friends send me to temporarily alleviate symptoms never worked.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by defrost » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:41 AM UTC

nomy99 wrote: post #99

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It's a community with individuals.

One user in particular made a pretty racially insensitive comment, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38496195 and they got downvoted for it. Hard.

So, re: your proposition that HN is the most racist community - No.

* 1. Some members are, for sure, and can be vocal about it, most aren't.

* 2. You should see some of the other communities out there, some are explicitly dedicated to racial purity and being complete idiots about it.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by smegger001 » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:41 AM UTC

nsxwolf wrote: post #97

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

yeah i think i do the same thing as you with my ears. a flutter is probably the best description of it i had thought of it as clapping or clicking my ears but that is to sharp a sound to really describe it

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by speedylight » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:41 AM UTC

It isn’t just that I get tinnitus when my eras are plugged with ear wax if I don’t clean them a for a while, and when I do poof it’s magically gone. I figure tinnitus is the brains response to a lack of input in a specific frequency range, like filler noise.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by makk » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:41 AM UTC

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

  Some examples:
  - jutting my jaw forwards
  - moving my ears back with my face muscles
  - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands

That's wild. Never tried that before but just did and I can 100% repro.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by ornornor » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:48 AM UTC

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

> - jutting my jaw forward

Works for me too. Never noticed it would do it before though. I’ve had very mild tinnitus for as long as I can remember. But I mostly only hear it when it’s quiet around so I’m lucky in that sense I guess.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by sedatk » Sat, Dec 02, 2023, 7:51 AM UTC

nsxwolf wrote: post #97

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

I can do that too.