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300-year-old Tokyo comb company sells 30k-yen ($200) wooden hair combs

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Re: 300-year-old Tokyo comb company sells 30k-yen ($200) wooden hair combs

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I find it endearing, fascinating but ultimately tedious that the Japanese put SO much effort into both seemingly mundane AND intricate objects. I realize that it's more a combination of tradition and their self imposed ~exile~ (isolationism, corrected) from the world for a long time. But there must be a reason why they excel, I mean really excel at anything they put their minds to. Their population also tolerates thi…

Yes because they understand the point of life. It is the creating and the making that makes things worth living. That is why chat gpt and similar tech is going to make our lives more meaningless. Writing and struggling and completing the poem is itself more than half of what makes a poem worthy. The final artifact which chatgpt provides is meaningless without that effort.

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Yes because they understand the point of life. It is the creating and the making that makes things worth living. That is why chat gpt and similar tech is going to make our lives more meaningless. Writing and struggling and completing the poem is itself more than half of what makes a poem worthy. The final artifact which chatgpt provides is meaningless without that effort.

I don't think that struggling to write poetry makes the poem worthy. The final result, and its impact on the performer/reader/listener does (and I say this as a poet). Many of my most profoundly impactful (to myself and others) works birthed themselves painlessly in thirty minutes or less. Several ones that mean the most to me in less than five minutes.

I can't speak for you, but I find it hard to believe meaningful compositions would be meaningful without the words naturally flowing out of the emotions that birthed them. You'll find no such meaning behind the statistically average gunk spit out by generative models.

Re: 300-year-old Tokyo comb company sells 30k-yen ($200) wooden hair combs

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I find it endearing, fascinating but ultimately tedious that the Japanese put SO much effort into both seemingly mundane AND intricate objects. I realize that it's more a combination of tradition and their self imposed ~exile~ (isolationism, corrected) from the world for a long time. But there must be a reason why they excel, I mean really excel at anything they put their minds to. Their population also tolerates thi…

>I realize that it's more a combination of tradition and their self imposed exile from the world for a long time.

Surely it's more to do with population density? It's not like every Japanese person has one of these combs.

It's much more likely that these niche businesses can exist where population is highly concentrated.

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I find it endearing, fascinating but ultimately tedious that the Japanese put SO much effort into both seemingly mundane AND intricate objects. I realize that it's more a combination of tradition and their self imposed ~exile~ (isolationism, corrected) from the world for a long time. But there must be a reason why they excel, I mean really excel at anything they put their minds to. Their population also tolerates thi…

And chalk.

There is a brand of Japanese chalk which is very popular among people who frequently use chalk. It is called Hagoromo.

See:

- Why mathematicians are hoarding this special type of Japanese chalk: https://gizmodo.com/why-mathematicians-are-hoarding-this-spe...

- Apparently that company was purchased from its previous owner and continues to operate: https://hagoromo.shop/

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I've always felt that Japan takes things the rest of the world is known for and does it better. Some examples to add on to yours above. - Better denim than America - Better coffee than Italy/France/etc - Better French pastries than France

I agree, in spirit, but there are many bad coffee shops and restaurants through out Japan too. They are, obviously, not depicted in the media. The things that I can praise are mostly things that don’t usually exist outside of Japan, either because foreigners don’t like them or because it’s difficult to make them, some examples include: - “smart” toilets -- https://jp.toto.com/products/toilet/ - (fresh) もち -- https://…

Mochi and red bean paste I already enjoy, so I was curious about 卵かけご飯 but frankly it's just made me consider egg fried rice as a legit breakfast option :)

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I find it endearing, fascinating but ultimately tedious that the Japanese put SO much effort into both seemingly mundane AND intricate objects. I realize that it's more a combination of tradition and their self imposed ~exile~ (isolationism, corrected) from the world for a long time. But there must be a reason why they excel, I mean really excel at anything they put their minds to. Their population also tolerates thi…

Pens (pencils too!) and paper make sense because of the fine detail/relatively high stroke count required to write even some common kanji legibly

Re: 300-year-old Tokyo comb company sells 30k-yen ($200) wooden hair combs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that struggling to write poetry makes the poem worthy. The final result, and its impact on the performer/reader/listener does (and I say this as a poet). Many of my most profoundly impactful (to myself and others) works birthed themselves painlessly in thirty minutes or less. Several ones that mean the most to me in less than five minutes.

I can't speak for you, but I find it hard to believe meaningful compositions would be meaningful without the words naturally flowing out of the emotions that birthed them. You'll find no such meaning behind the statistically average gunk spit out by generative models.

I've personally made generative models produce poetry that brought tears to my eyes. Granted, they always require as a template other poetry that I already find meaningful, but this did not diminish the results in any respect, in my eyes.

On the other hand, asking GPT to write poetry from scratch? Just awful.

Re: 300-year-old Tokyo comb company sells 30k-yen ($200) wooden hair combs

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I find it endearing, fascinating but ultimately tedious that the Japanese put SO much effort into both seemingly mundane AND intricate objects. I realize that it's more a combination of tradition and their self imposed ~exile~ (isolationism, corrected) from the world for a long time. But there must be a reason why they excel, I mean really excel at anything they put their minds to. Their population also tolerates thi…

Isolation lasted only 260 years, and ended more than 150 years ago. Explaining luxury combs because of sakoku is a bit absurd. It's akin to explaining luxury handbags due to the vikings invasions.

The handbag comparison came to mind for me too: We don't usually look for a big ethnic/culture explanations for European designer handbag manufacturers.

Though perhaps watchmaking is an exception.

Re: 300-year-old Tokyo comb company sells 30k-yen ($200) wooden hair combs

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> If you take care of a Yonoya comb, it’ll last you for decades, the company says

I don't take care of my $3 Ace plastic comb, and it's over 20 years old. You're telling me for this Japanese one I need to pay $200 and I need to start taking care of it??

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