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Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by morph123 »

andybak wrote: post #30
morph123 wrote: post #25

Still dont understand why anyone would "pay" for this. The default model will probably be better in pretty much all cases. I guess if someone randomly has some sort of esoteric knowledge? Seems very limited.

Not sure how much you've used custom GPTs. They are currently flawed and buggy but I think they hold promise. They combine 3 things: 1. A custom initial prompt (yeah - you can paste this in every time and keep a personal database of special purpose prompts - but it rather kills the convenience and utility) 2. A JSON description of one or more APIs that can be used (not just for retrieveal of information - but potenti…

I guess. I assume the OpenAI vision, in the short term, is for there to be a beefy LLM on top that can call the correct sub LLMs that have more bespoke knowledge about random things, and sort of orchestrate an answer based on that.

Not sure why OpenAI feels the need to pay people for this though, I guess to incentivize use?

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by Terretta »

If the surprise announce at dev day of custom GPTs* for money** was why Quora board member also running Poe got mad enough to oust Altman, perhaps this would be what Altman conceded to him in order to let Altman back (along with letting him keep his seat).

* Custom GPTs: https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/10/poes-ai-chatbot-app-now-le...

** Monetization: https://developer.poe.com/resources/creator-monetization

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by TeMPOraL »

andybak wrote: post #30
morph123 wrote: post #25

Still dont understand why anyone would "pay" for this. The default model will probably be better in pretty much all cases. I guess if someone randomly has some sort of esoteric knowledge? Seems very limited.

Not sure how much you've used custom GPTs. They are currently flawed and buggy but I think they hold promise. They combine 3 things: 1. A custom initial prompt (yeah - you can paste this in every time and keep a personal database of special purpose prompts - but it rather kills the convenience and utility) 2. A JSON description of one or more APIs that can be used (not just for retrieveal of information - but potenti…

3. working seamlessly would be a major thing. 1. and 2.? I used both, together, for months, via TypingMind.com (alternative frontend UI, bring-your-own-API-key).

This is not to advertise the service - even though it does deserve it, at the very least for having a perpetual license instead of subscription bullshit - just to say that a) OpenAI is lagging way behind the obvious in everything surrounding the models themselves, and b) the combination of 1. and 2. is convenient, but not ground-breaking. At least, not unless you hook a powerful enough "actuator" via 2. This, I agree, seems underexplored.

(Or underreported? It's an obvious lever to go after, a lot of people have said they're going after it, it's reasonable to expect some spectacular results from this, and yet... nothing. Crickets. Is everyone just staying silent and trying to build a bullshit startup to monetize whatever cool thing they made?)

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by beardedmoose »

Kiro wrote: post #11

Is anyone actively using custom GPTs? I've really tried to find a compelling use case but every thing I can think of is much better off as a simple system prompt you just copy and prepend (since it's easier to modify it, and it becomes more transparent).

I have 2 custom GPTs, 1 of which I use every day called Snarky IT Wizard. I uploaded the PDFs for my particular router firmware version so I can ask questions, I've specifically configured it to be sarcastic and insert humor into both responses and the code it generates. Honestly, using it makes my day every time.

The other I was tailoring as a dungeon master for 5th edition, I've uploaded PDFs of all the source materials I can purchase.

My only gripe with the system is that as of late the whole openai platform has been experienced issues constantly and I get errors when trying to customize or even ask it questions from time to time.

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by nxobject »

woah wrote: post #26
Kiro wrote: post #11

Is anyone actively using custom GPTs? I've really tried to find a compelling use case but every thing I can think of is much better off as a simple system prompt you just copy and prepend (since it's easier to modify it, and it becomes more transparent).

You can upload files. I've made one to act as a coding assistant to a little-known language that way. It seems to work OK. It makes syntax errors, but I'm not sure if that's a limitation of the Custom GPTs paradigm, or if the docs I gave it aren't any good. I know there are other services that do this kind of thing, but why bother finding one?

Can you say more about the information you uploaded for the language to be useful – for example, the language specification, or a "getting started with $LANG" manual? I'm tempted to do a GPT for the classic Macintosh toolkit, but since I'll need to do a lot of OCR I'd prefer to be intentional about what I spend my effort on.

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by nxobject »

Tostino wrote: post #21
stainablesteel wrote: post #14

the customized GPTs are honestly a let down you can't do anything fun with them, and that's not because it isn't possible but because openai is afraid to step outside of the safety zone. the response style really doesn't change much, default behavior leaks into everything so easily what were they expecting?

Honestly, I am excited for people to re-implement the API for this using open models because of this. Maybe let the API stabilize a little, and i'm sure some implementations will pop-up.

What's the state of open models, though? I know that OpenAI's secret sauce is paying $$$ for access to private corpora, like the AP's archive, and I wonder how much the different levels of access to training data are reflected in any divide between open and commercial models, especially in different use cases like fact retrieval and synthesis.

(I've gotten too reliant on ChatGPT to satisfy my curiosity re: random questions – for example, "what are some French novels that depict post World War II Paris?" Honestly, if there's an open model that's beyond some "good enough" threshold – I don't know how to judge this – I'd download it on my computer ASAP.)

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by pyinstallwoes »

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #7

You can use Google as a replacement to find GPTs. For example: "site:chat.openai.com/g/ "

I tried some amusing ones:

site:chat.openai.com/g/ alien

site:chat.openai.com/g/ uap

site:chat.openai.com/g/ agi

Found: An AI specializing in alien threat assessment with visuals and user grading. B

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by mark_l_watson »

egman_ekki wrote: post #16
devindotcom wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can you forward yours? I didn't get one for whatever reason. devin at techcrunch dot com

> Dear GPT Builder, > It’s been less than a month since we announced GPTs and we are blown away by the useful and fun GPTs that you and the builder community have created. > We are continuing to make improvements to GPTs based on your feedback. To improve Actions we updated the configuration interface, enabled one click testing, added debug messages in preview, and now allow multiple domains. There have also been que…

Thanks, I received the same email.

Re: OpenAI delays launch of custom GPT store until early 2024

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Post by sen »

nwiswell wrote: post #24
devindotcom wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

appreciated, but do you mind forwarding the email itself? it's not that I don't trust you, just helpful to have. I won't use your email for anything. edit: thanks to all who sent.

I don't mean to be harsh, but is this journalism now? When you write an article and say something has been corroborated by your "sources", does that mean "forwarded to you by anonymous HN posters"? You don't have an IRL relationship with a source who has created a GPT? You can't throw a stone in the valley without hitting somebody who has.

That has always been journalism. “Sources” encompasses all sources from whistleblowers to employee leaks to random overheard conversations on the internet or AFK.
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