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$500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Not a bad side gig. I forwarded this to some of my less-than-employed friends. Beats driving uber-eats and other shitty gig jobs IMO.

It does seem morally gray, but I was just amazed by how one of those workers makes better money than in his last job as a web developer in the Philippines.

I'm sure they aren't all clearing $500 a day, but that's what... the equivalent of a $130k/year salary? That's better than a lot of US-based web developer roles, let alone in the rest of the world.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

Interesting that you have such a strong opinion about something you apparently don't care for. I'm happy to tell you that i'm absolutly normal and have a high morals and ethics. There are people in our society who do not think that Sex, Erotic and the body are disgusting or weird or sick but something great. Apprechiating this through OnlyFans allows the person who provides the service to do so with their rules and t…

very odd comment, and from a brand new account. Makes me wonder what your motivations are.

You didn't address anything in the parent comment. You seem to be responding to onlyfans in general, not the fraudulent usage of the chat feature the parent comment is addressing.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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The problem is that politics very rapidly drives its way into the conversation, and discussions about mental health, what is healthy for society, etc get pushed aside. This model fundamentally changes the structure of human society, and the trend will likely accelerate, not decelerate, over the coming years. And yet the conversation usually immediately gets divided into the feminist camps and the conservative Christi…

I'm dating a younger male right now, and "general unsuitability to healthy relationships" really rings true to an extent . His friends are more or less constantly bragging about how they "link up" with their friend's partners (without the friend knowing/consenting), lead people on, and so on. It's obviously not all younger people. I think that the rise of social media has affected this area of human interaction more…

I think it’s highly possible, even likely. But as a society it will be a struggle to adapt to these sorts of fundamental shift of assumptions of how things are “supposed to be.”

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

This is seriously tame and hardly an affront to anyone’s dignity. (Edit: For clarity these people are typing in a chat app pretending to be someone else not sharing pictures of themselves online.) I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, social media intern, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. An actual 3 year old may be fooled, but sometimes adults want to play pretend as well. You don…

Or like psychics and palm readers, or even stage magicians. There doesn't seem to be any coercion involved here, one side is paying for entertainment, and in return they are getting entertainment.

Honestly, good for these women who figured out a legal, safe way to profit from thirsty men, that is so risk-free it doesn't even involve physical proximity to those men. They seem to have cracked the "scaling" problem too, by hiring help. I'm impressed.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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This is seriously tame and hardly an affront to anyone’s dignity. (Edit: For clarity these people are typing in a chat app pretending to be someone else not sharing pictures of themselves online.) I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, social media intern, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. An actual 3 year old may be fooled, but sometimes adults want to play pretend as well. You don…

> I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. Would you support your 18 year old child doing onlyfans like you might them working at Disneyland? Im not personally against Onlyfans but I won't pretend like I wouldn't have serious concerns with a loved one doing this. If for no other reason then the content being scrapped and published for future coworkers…

> Would you support your 18 year old child doing onlyfans like you might them working at Disneyland?

What reason would I have to be less supportive?

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

#56

I wonder if society should step in to prevent those men from getting hooked. We already step in to prevent people getting hooked on physical drugs because the negative externalities are too bad to accept. But this sounds like people getting hooked mentally will also have pretty bad side-effects for society as a whole. I mean imagine some guy "falling in love" with a model this way. And then after a year and $10k in "…

> I wonder if society should step in to prevent those men from getting hooked.

Clear disclosure and consent is required.

If the person paying for this feature knew it was just roleplay with a person pretending to be the model, I don't think any reasonable person would have an issue with it.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

#57
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Interesting that you have such a strong opinion about something you apparently don't care for. I'm happy to tell you that i'm absolutly normal and have a high morals and ethics. There are people in our society who do not think that Sex, Erotic and the body are disgusting or weird or sick but something great. Apprechiating this through OnlyFans allows the person who provides the service to do so with their rules and t…

very odd comment, and from a brand new account. Makes me wonder what your motivations are. You didn't address anything in the parent comment. You seem to be responding to onlyfans in general, not the fraudulent usage of the chat feature the parent comment is addressing.

Whats odd about it?

Do you think its normal in our society to state publicly that you think onlyfans is okay/good?

Of course not. We are not a open society.

And he clearly doesn't reference the article with the hook 'problem', he keeps it generic: "(the girl selling and the guy buying)"

Onlyfans is obvously satisfying a fantasy. This has very little to do with real life.

And when you actually buy a private video, its not some dude pretending to chat in the name of the woman, its the woman making that video.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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They are in fact strong opinions. Normal people don’t take their clothe off to sell images of their vagina to people who are mentally unstable. Not sure how much more principled you want to go about it.

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Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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> I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. Would you support your 18 year old child doing onlyfans like you might them working at Disneyland? Im not personally against Onlyfans but I won't pretend like I wouldn't have serious concerns with a loved one doing this. If for no other reason then the content being scrapped and published for future coworkers…

> Would you support your 18 year old child doing onlyfans like you might them working at Disneyland? What reason would I have to be less supportive?

The serious potential for emotional and reputational harm resulting from having publicly searchable nude images of them on the internet (assuming they're doing OnlyFans content, not roleplaying someone elses content).

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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This is seriously tame and hardly an affront to anyone’s dignity. (Edit: For clarity these people are typing in a chat app pretending to be someone else not sharing pictures of themselves online.) I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, social media intern, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. An actual 3 year old may be fooled, but sometimes adults want to play pretend as well. You don…

> I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. Would you support your 18 year old child doing onlyfans like you might them working at Disneyland? Im not personally against Onlyfans but I won't pretend like I wouldn't have serious concerns with a loved one doing this. If for no other reason then the content being scrapped and published for future coworkers…

> Would you support your 18 year old child doing onlyfans like you might them working at Disneyland?

I would support them the same way I would support them becoming a stunt actor or performing any other job that comes with significant risks - very hesitantly, while having a conversation about potential downsides and not being super happy about their choice (again, mostly due to risk to themselves), but without thinking that it is inherently some moral crime.

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