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$500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Every generation has their moral panic. This is just the latest.

Deceiving someone is fraud, certainly. But the website makes no pretense that it's a dating site. People go there to simulate emotions. No different from how I go to the movies to simulate risky adventures, or others go to a church to feel what I do at an Arsenal game.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

This is seriously tame and hardly an affront to anyone’s dignity. (Edit: For clarity these people are typing in a chat app pretending to be someone else not sharing pictures of themselves online.) I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, social media intern, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. An actual 3 year old may be fooled, but sometimes adults want to play pretend as well. You don…

I mean maybe you should experience firsthand what it would be like if someone in your family was involved in this? I do think that if you can’t think at least a few steps ahead of my point of view maybe you shouldn’t try and justify it on their behalf?

I am not being hostile by the way, just saying it how it is.

This is not some “I accidentally scraped your car” issue. Real people are making extremely unhealthy choices that lead to a lot of trauma and mental disorders. In the name of money (women) and false pleasure (men).

None of these girls give a flying fuck of who these guys are. And according to this article, how could they?

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

Interesting that you have such a strong opinion about something you apparently don't care for.

I'm happy to tell you that i'm absolutly normal and have a high morals and ethics.

There are people in our society who do not think that Sex, Erotic and the body are disgusting or weird or sick but something great.

Apprechiating this through OnlyFans allows the person who provides the service to do so with their rules and the person who consumes it to feel enjoyment.

I, for example like certain things. The girls/woman there provide it freely and get money for it.

I think you are the problem, not OnlyFans, not me and not the girl taking the money.

And as a site note: We as a society decided to allow every person to take part in our society even weird people, arrogant people, assholes etc. by paying for services. Like the person who MAKES you a Coffee for money.

I actually think (i'm not trolling) that this is sick. Us using others to do things we can do ourselves just because we have the money to do so.

If we wouldn't think its normal, the pressure for society to make people actually free through automisation would be much stronger. But no People need to work, what would happen otherwise if richer person couldn't get a service for convinience...

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

The problem is that politics very rapidly drives its way into the conversation, and discussions about mental health, what is healthy for society, etc get pushed aside. This model fundamentally changes the structure of human society, and the trend will likely accelerate, not decelerate, over the coming years. And yet the conversation usually immediately gets divided into the feminist camps and the conservative Christi…

It doesn't necessarily split between feminists and conservatives, it is just as likely that feminists split.

In particular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin was opposed to pornography in a way that resonated with conservatives.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

This is seriously tame and hardly an affront to anyone’s dignity. (Edit: For clarity these people are typing in a chat app pretending to be someone else not sharing pictures of themselves online.) I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, social media intern, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. An actual 3 year old may be fooled, but sometimes adults want to play pretend as well. You don…

> I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc.

Would you support your 18 year old child doing onlyfans like you might them working at Disneyland?

Im not personally against Onlyfans but I won't pretend like I wouldn't have serious concerns with a loved one doing this. If for no other reason then the content being scrapped and published for future coworkers, neighbors, etc., to view.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

I honestly don't think your opinions are strong. The vast majority of people intuitively feel this way, they wouldn't willingly date a former prostitute or porn star, they'd be upset if their spouse or child were involved, etc. It's more of an interesting disaster to watch from a distance, like a car crash.

However, the criteria for mental illness isn't "it's unpopular".

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Not a bad side gig. I forwarded this to some of my less-than-employed friends. Beats driving uber-eats and other shitty gig jobs IMO.

For the completely unethical, perhaps. Delivering food is a legitimate, respectable and productive job. Fraudulently deceiving lonely men to coerce them into paying for more fraudulent interactions, less so. I wonder how long before an article is published about someone committing suicide when they find out they were talking to a man in the Philippines rather than the woman they thought they were talking to.

People manipulating and pretending to be someone they are not has been going on since the internet has been a thing and provided the ability to be anon. "Nobody knows you are a dog on the internet" is like 1996.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is seriously tame and hardly an affront to anyone’s dignity. (Edit: For clarity these people are typing in a chat app pretending to be someone else not sharing pictures of themselves online.) I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, social media intern, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. An actual 3 year old may be fooled, but sometimes adults want to play pretend as well. You don…

I mean maybe you should experience firsthand what it would be like if someone in your family was involved in this? I do think that if you can’t think at least a few steps ahead of my point of view maybe you shouldn’t try and justify it on their behalf? I am not being hostile by the way, just saying it how it is. This is not some “I accidentally scraped your car” issue. Real people are making extremely unhealthy choic…

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