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$500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

This is seriously tame and hardly an affront to anyone’s dignity. (Edit: For clarity these people are typing in a chat app pretending to be someone else not sharing pictures of themselves online.)

I really don’t see the difference between this and being an Actor, social media intern, character at Disneyland, Mall Santa etc. An actual 3 year old may be fooled, but sometimes adults want to play pretend as well.

You don’t think you were actually watching Frodo carry the burden of the one ring did you?

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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post #4

Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

I honestly don't think your opinions are strong. The vast majority of people intuitively feel this way, they wouldn't willingly date a former prostitute or porn star, they'd be upset if their spouse or child were involved, etc.

It's more of an interesting disaster to watch from a distance, like a car crash.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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I wonder if society should step in to prevent those men from getting hooked. We already step in to prevent people getting hooked on physical drugs because the negative externalities are too bad to accept. But this sounds like people getting hooked mentally will also have pretty bad side-effects for society as a whole.

I mean imagine some guy "falling in love" with a model this way. And then after a year and $10k in "voluntary gifts", the poor guy figures out that he's the sucker and he has been milked by scammers and he never actually talked to his "girlfriend". Do you expect that person to go back and have a healthy relationship with women afterwards? Or is he going to go off the deep end and become misogynistic? You can't put all the blame only on him after that experience. He might need therapy and rehab afterwards, just like a recovering drug addict.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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I wonder if society should step in to prevent those men from getting hooked. We already step in to prevent people getting hooked on physical drugs because the negative externalities are too bad to accept. But this sounds like people getting hooked mentally will also have pretty bad side-effects for society as a whole. I mean imagine some guy "falling in love" with a model this way. And then after a year and $10k in "…

As precedent, prostitution is already illegal in most countries. This is controversial, though.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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post #4

Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

I agree.

Imagine if dating apps paid you to keep your profile active even if you have no interest in meeting anyone. They pay you $5/month per match with a minimum of 5 messages before ghosting. It keeps lonely men on the platform. For some people, OnlyFans chat is no different.

There should be clear disclosures that there is potential the other account is outsourced to a different person, or a LLM.

I'm having trouble finding it now, but I recall there being a rumor that the Bumble CEO was fired for permitting fake accounts to exist, so that usage appeared high. I think it had to do with allowing virtual phone numbers

EDIT: Wow.... there are a lot people in this thread pushing back on the parent comment suggesting outsourced model chats are immoral, or not an ethical way to make a living.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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> “He believed he was in a relationship with the model. He sent her money to buy dresses and encouraged her to continue posting photos. I don’t know if they’re still together,” she jokes. Emotionally manipulating someone to send money. Hilarious. I just can't stop laughing. OnlyFans is an abusive platform. It's not "just" nodes and porn, it sells "connections", except they're not really connections at all, and then a…

There is a parallel issue in the world of sugar relationships. I know a few "sugar daddies," and one common theme for all of them is the number of "sugar babies" who lead them on and emotionally manipulate them. It's sad that the SDs fall for it, and it's cruel and pathetic that the SBs do it. It's common enough that there's a sort of meme in the gay twink community about it, even.

Yeah I do too, and they related similar experiences. The SB's typically have 3-4 men on the go at any one time.

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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Digital avatars powered by LLMs will be better at this I think people focus on replicating existing people too much Completely new personalities and voices are going to be even more broadly accepted, as there is a huge audience that feels like paying a real woman is failure, but I suspect will treat this like buying a hentai manga, since that scene has had Adults Only games and other forms of digital interactive ente…

"Microsoft Asia-Pacific developed the AI Xiaoice, which appears as a flirty 18-year-old girl and has garnered hundreds of million users, mostly Chinese men."

https://time.com/6257790/ai-chatbots-love/

Re: $500 a day to pretend to be a model: The big business behind OnlyFans 'chatters'

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post #4

Pretty wild. I have fairly strong opinions on this subject. Neither of the parties (the girl selling and the guy buying) could ever justify it for me. I don’t think it’s possible to go anywhere lower than this, both mentally and spiritually. You have one party sacrificing their morals while the other sacrifices their dignity. And there is no in between. Wow. I feel like this should be a far more talked about issue th…

Lower is the AI girlfriend, which I'm wondering why this hasn't already taken off for these types of chat scenarios.
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